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Could you unlock these profiles? Our blog is complete and Qawsedf gave it a thumbs up.

 
Could you unlock these profiles? Our blog is complete and Qawsedf gave it a thumbs up.

Done.
 
The Blog is literally just the op put into a blog to explain the rating
Okay, all blogs that are used to scale a cosmology have to be evaluated in case there is something else to add or remove, that's already a rule, plus based on your edits you just changed the ratings and didn't even link the blog.
 
Okay, personally I would have preferred to wait for the thread to finish and DT's draft, but okay, just do it.

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Okay, all blogs that are used to scale a cosmology have to be evaluated in case there is something else to add or remove, that's already a rule, plus based on your edits you just changed the ratings and didn't even link the blog.
So what's the point of this right crt accepted?
Like the arguments were accepted, but just because it was posted on a blog, will it have to be accepted all over again?
Serious?
 
So what's the point of this right crt accepted?
Like the arguments were accepted, but just because it was posted on a blog, will it have to be accepted all over again?
Serious?
What you say has nothing to do with me, every time a change is made in a cosmology (and more in tier 1 proposal) it is always suggested to compile the information in a blog to have a more direct way instead of reading 9999 pages of a CRT and such a blog needs evaluation to be used.

Editing Rules.
  • Blogs for 2-A or higher tier and particularly controversial powers will be subject to extra scrutiny and will need the approval of staff members.
 
So what's the point of this right crt accepted?
Like the arguments were accepted, but just because it was posted on a blog, will it have to be accepted all over again?
Serious?
Just consider it formality. If the arguments in the blog are the exact same the staff will vote in the exact same way too.

Also this is to make sure that the contents in the blog is the same as what's accepted in the CRT.
 
Just consider it formality. If the arguments in the blog are the exact same the staff will vote in the exact same way too.

Also this is to make sure that the contents in the blog is the same as what's accepted in the CRT.
Until the 6 staff members come back here to read everything and accept it again...

Will LordGrifitt return? He himself said that he will no longer enter tier 1.
 
Like the arguments were accepted, but just because it was posted on a blog, will it have to be accepted all over again?
The Cosmology Blog has to be linked in the main page and is subject to certain requirements. Which is why if you want to use one you have to have it accepted (otherwise for every page you have to give a detailed explanation as to why they would be Low 1-C).

For the DT change, all that might happen is the blog is edited to just have the collection of timelines be Low 1-C rather than every individual timeline. So its just rewriting the last section and the conclusion section slightly.
 
Could you unlock these profiles? Our blog is complete and Qawsedf gave it a thumbs up.

I was under the impression a scaling CRT would be following this?
 
A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.

This structure can then be generalized to any number of dimensions, which is why destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A).

A spacetime continuum with two time axis, instead of just one, could likewise be visualized as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the entire regular timeline with 3 space and 1 time dimension. It would hence be one level of qualitative superiority above a timeline and as such baseline Low 1-C. Similarily, adding even more time dimensions would add one level of qualitative superiority each time.

Outside of explanations which state that multiple time dimensions exist it is difficult to show that a fiction has more than one. The key point that has to be established is that there is a kind of time that flows in a different direction than the past or the future or any of the spatial directions.
Things like timelines having time that passes at different rates would not qualify, as even the theory of general relativity already establishes that with just one regular time dimension time can flow at different rates in different places. Time flowing backwards in another universe would also not qualify it to have an additional time dimension, as it would still use the same directions of past and future as regular time, just with events playing out in reverse.

Of particular consideration are instances in which timelines as a whole being changed, such that there is a timeline (or multiple timelines) before they were changed and after they were changed or created / destroyed. As the timelines as a whole are changed, the before and after in this context can't be the past and future the timelines usually use, but should be a separate direction.
However, caution is necessary. As explained above, we require that the additional time dimension is "a line comprised of uncountably infinite points". If new versions of timelines are only created if they are changed, due to time travel for example, then the number of "snapshots" of the timeline would be far more limited. The amount of snapshots would be one more than the times the timeline was changed. So, for example, if the timeline is rewritten 2 times, there would be 3 snapshots of the timeline: the original, the timeline after the first rewrite and the timeline after the second rewrite. That are far less than the required uncountably infinite many.
Aside from direct statements, the easiest way to confirm that the line is comprised of uncountably infinite points/"snapshots" is to show that the development of the timelines is time-like. I.e. typically one would want a statement like the alteration of the timelines being subject to its own flow of time or by saying that special time travel can go to prior versions of the timelines instead of the past. The keyword in the latter case is time travel, as that specifies that the action happens through movement through something like time. Note that such statements can be considered contradicted if the fiction specifies that new versions of the timeline, i.e. additional snapshots, are only created when the timeline is altered or similar.
One other pitfall to consider is the case of branching timelines, where one can return to a past with less timelines by just going back to a point in the regular past that was before the split happened. In such cases one has to decide based on context if that is meant or if a prior version where the splits also didn't exist in the regular future is meant. The former case doesn't qualify for an additional time dimension, while the latter might if it meets the other outlined criteria.
I have something exactly like this mentioned in the last section of my blog, so we’re good to go!👍 We just have to wait for more staff to accept the blog.
 
I have something exactly like this mentioned in the last section of my blog, so we’re good to go!👍 We just have to wait for more staff to accept the blog.
Since inclusive and independent temporal dimensions no longer necessarily mean "hypertimeline" or "extra direction", doesn't this actually need to be revised?

Because the OP and Low 1-C were made in such a way that "this temporal dimension does not necessarily flow in different directions". Because these standards were changed for a while
 
Since inclusive and independent temporal dimensions no longer necessarily mean "hypertimeline" or "extra direction", doesn't this actually need to be revised?

Because the OP and Low 1-C were made in such a way that "this temporal dimension does not necessarily flow in different directions". Because these standards were changed for a while
We can all see the staff thread, DontTalk didn’t respond to your suggestion yet. No, this is not the new case.
 
We can all see the staff thread, DontTalk didn’t respond to your suggestion yet. No, this is not the new case.
Outside of explanations which state that multiple time dimensions exist it is difficult to show that a fiction has more than one. The key point that has to be established is that there is a kind of time that flows in a different direction than the past or the future or any of the spatial directions.
Things like timelines having time that passes at different rates would not qualify, as even the theory of general relativity already establishes that with just one regular time dimension time can flow at different rates in different places. Time flowing backwards in another universe would also not qualify it to have an additional time dimension, as it would still use the same directions of past and future as regular time, just with events playing out in reverse.
What I said is actually still here, I just wanted to add it as a note to make it clearer, so that there is no misunderstanding.
In general, the standard should still be that we ensure that the second time dimension actually flows in a different direction than the first.

So a time dimension just encompassing multiple timelines should in itself indeed not suffice, as that could still go into the same direction (i.e. flow into the same future, just on a spatially greater scale).
 
I love that you cut DT draft into half and just bolded the direction word sematically to prove your point, while ignoring the rest
No? I just said that the place I suggested to add as a note actually explains it exactly here. I made the suggestion to add a note because I think it's good to add a simple note so that this jumbled narrative doesn't get wrong. Did I think something bad?
 
I don't think Toriyama or Toei had ever thought of something like this that far unlike us. But I suppose its what it is.
 
DB qualifies as per recent draft, yeah.
Qualifies so perfectly that it's weird
I don't think Toriyama or Toei had ever thought of something like this that far unlike us. But I suppose its what it is.
Most authors don't think about all this,

Then again, he did say the afterlife was dimensionally transcendent
 
If we're really playing the semantics game by the way, I want to point out that while DontTalk's draft mentions the "different direction" stuff, it's depicted as an alternative form of evidence if two temporal dimensions haven't been proven. It's the same as Reiner's version and different from the original in that the additional direction stuff is treated more like an alternative form of evidence than something required primarily.

Original draft​

The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime. This structure can then be generalized to any amounts of dimensions, and is also the reason destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). So, for example, a spacetime continuum comprising two temporal dimensions (Instead of just one) would have an additional time direction whose "snapshots" correspond to the whole of a 4-dimensional spacetime, and so on and so forth.

Reiner's draft​

A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.

This structure can then be generalized to any number of dimensions, which is why destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A). For example, a higher spacetime continuum with two temporal dimensions (instead of just one) comprises a higher temporal axis that spans regular temporal dimensions that the entirety of 4-dimensional spacetimes, or equivalents to it are serviced by (This is similar to how the time dimension in a 4-dimensional spacetime continuum spans uncountably infinite 3-dimensional snapshots of the universe), qualifying it for Low 1-C. Unless fiction shows otherwise, a different multiversal temporal dimension spanning universes that themselves have their own time dimensions as well (not the same multiversal time dimension that services many Universes and is shared by them), or even a single universe with two active temporal dimensions, qualifies. The same applies to three or more temporal dimensions.

DontTalk's draft​

A: The relationship between the spatial dimensions of a universe and the additional temporal dimension(s) may be visualized as something akin to the frames of a movie placed side-by-side. Basically, the time-like direction may be thought of as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the whole universe at any given moment, with the set of all such events comprising the totality of spacetime.

This structure can then be generalized to any number of dimensions, which is why destroying a spacetime continuum is a greater feat than destroying only the contents of the physical universe (Low 2-C, rather than 3-A or High 3-A).

A spacetime continuum with two time axis, instead of just one, could likewise be visualized as a line comprised of uncountably infinite points, each of which is a static "snapshot" of the entire regular timeline with 3 space and 1 time dimension. It would hence be one level of qualitative superiority above a timeline and as such baseline Low 1-C. Similarily, adding even more time dimensions would add one level of qualitative superiority each time.

Outside of explanations which state that multiple time dimensions exist it is difficult to show that a fiction has more than one. The key point that has to be established is that there is a kind of time that flows in a different direction than the past or the future or any of the spatial directions.
Things like timelines having time that passes at different rates would not qualify, as even the theory of general relativity already establishes that with just one regular time dimension time can flow at different rates in different places. Time flowing backwards in another universe would also not qualify it to have an additional time dimension, as it would still use the same directions of past and future as regular time, just with events playing out in reverse.
 
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