Date A Live: Minor Revision

[Schnee_One]

Yeah this will probably be the last Date A Live revision for a while for better or for worse.

Anyway.

As I already stated in the Discussion Thread, there is no reason why Tohka Yatogami isn't solidly Low 2C in her New Existemce form, Previously we ranked this at unknown due to how supposedly massively more powerful she was from before but given the unquantifiable difference between Low 2C and 2C this is much more solidely "At Least Low 2C"

There's also the idea of her having Mio Takamiya's abilities but that's up for discussion of more knowledgeable people.

Secondly, Shido Itsuka, after rereading the attack potency section, has a relatively noticeable issue.

It states he's High 6B+ to 6A overtime.....Yeah.

So that's probably worth looking over, either Shido is Potentially High 6B to 6A over time and this needed to be stated on the AP (Top of Page) and his Durability section, or someone missed a huge detail in editing.

That's all.

 

[Ionliosite]

1. I agree with changing the Unknown rating to At least Low 2-C.

2. If I understood correctly, Tohka now has Mio's Sephyra Crystal, which means that she has her powers.

3. Shido becomming High 6-B over time should be reworded, since he will eventually create an explosion similar to the one that Mio made 30 years before,so I don't know if it should scale to his durability.

 

[Schnee_One]

Would he survive it?

If yes, then yeah he should, if not then no.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah from what I can tell it was an explosion he would have died from correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't remember that part really well, but iirc, yes he would have died.

 

[Schnee_One]

Guess I'll get Causality to answer that.

 

[Ionliosite]

Bump?

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump indeed

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Bump.

 

[Schnee_One]

Guess now Is the best time to ask, what do we know on Westcott? I believe we can make a file for him.

 

[Ionliosite]

He knows magic, he has used Beelzebub (it should be in Nia's profile), and that he is so skilled in magic that he turned himself into the second spirit of origin (basically he has Mio's abilities) and a reiryoku barrier.

I would have to check if there is more stuff, but that pretty much it.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

As Tohka has Mio's powers, can vs Dark King be reopened?

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean

Tohka Stomps that no?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

She doesn't start invulnerable (unless she explicitly did that) and Dark King's leading move is erasure wind.

 

[Ionliosite]

Tohka erase him with RW in the same way she said that she can destroy a star with a poke OvO

 

[The_Causality]

This is fine to me.

Dunno if Tohka has all Mio's power, it seem that she only used Mio's Reality Warping to create the world, she didn't used any of Mio's angel against Kaiju-Mio, a possibly is fine to me.

 

[Schnee_One]

Whats fine with Shido?

 

[The_Causality]

He is High 6-B+ possibly 6-A Overtime, there is an editing error (AP at the top of the page).

 

[Schnee_One]

As in he would become High 6B to 6A or a suicidal explosion?

 

[The_Causality]

It's safe to just give this rant only via the sucidal explosion imo.

 

[Schnee_One]

So

Anything else?

 

[Ionliosite]

Add tabbers to Shido's profile, the profile is basically a mess. For example:

• Shido won't make the suicidal explosion in his High 6-C key, but his High 6-C key says all previous.
• Also, the passive Reiryouku barrier isn't passive anymore after the 6-C key, but he can still do it in his High 6-C form, so it should be cleared that in his High 6-C form isn't passive.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Why did it stop being passive?

 

[Schnee_One]

Because he can't control that much Reiryouku or he goes evil

Also this https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3402692?useskin=oasis#45

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump. I think enough people agreed on certain things.

 

[Nier_Hitoshura]

I agree as well. Also, I agree with what Ionliosite said; we should add tabbers to Shidou's profile.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh yeah, another thing regarding Rinne Sonogami

Destroying an unspecified Country without a size, is Low 6B https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Mr._Bambu/Dark_Cloud_Calc:_Country_On_Fire

 

[Ionliosite]

Wasn't Rinne supposed to destroy Japan?

 

[Nier_Hitoshura]

That's what it says on her profile.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh oops.

I think Japan is Higher then 6B though, but I might be wrong

Also. Why does Inverse Tohka and Origami scale to FTL by Mukuro when she's explicitly stated to be stronger then them while not serious?

 

[Ionliosite]

Because Tohka fought againts Mukuro, and even if she wasn't serious, she shouldn't be much slow than normal, and she is 6x SoL.

 

[Schnee_One]

Holding back is almost entirely unquantifiable in terms of scaling characters to one another (Example Beerus literally holding back infinitely against Goku, Kessler not one shotting Cole when they first met etc. etc.

For all we know Mukuro would have instablitzed Tohka if she got serious.

I agree to other forms scaling, just feel iffy on Inverse scaling to someone who wasn't serious.

 

[Ionliosite]

It's funny you use the Beerus vs. Goku example, because we scale Goku to MFTL+ thanks to that.

Anyway, maybe they should be "At least Relativistic+, possibly FTL" instead.

 

[Schnee_One]

You're comparing two different feats at two different times

We know that Beerus is significantly less casual fighting then when he was just chilling around in space.

If Mukuro did her feat by just chilling and traveling normally, or was very casual when she did it, you would have a point.

That said, pretty sure she wanted Shido dead when she did it.

 

[Ionliosite]

That's why I said "At least Relativistic+, possibly FTL", because we don't know how much she was holding back.

 

[Schnee_One]

She's only 6x above baseline FTL.

Not serious at all is enough to justify Rel

 

[Ionliosite]

What about "At least Relativistic+, possibly higher"?

 

[Schnee_One]

I guess

 

[Ionliosite]

Bumping this. Anything else needs to be discussed here?

 

[Schnee_One]

Not really.

Speed shouldn't be touched because not enough people agreed, but everything else is fine.