Darkseid Post-Flashpoint AP

[RouninOtaku]

Darkseid has always been shown to be stronger than the Justice League. Also Post-Flashpoint it was clearly shown that mostly Darkseid and Anti-Monitor were fighting and the Justice League were just there for the background. In my opinion I think Darkseid should rated "at least 4-C, possibly higher"

What do you guys think?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Powerscaling doesn't work for DC and the Antimonitor was not shown at the crups of his power (a planet was decimated instead of...well...universes).

 

[RouninOtaku]

He's consistently been shown to be stronger than most heroes though, so maybe at least 5-A or 4-C.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

5-A. He's been delayed by Superma.

 

[RouninOtaku]

Alright, can you edit it then? Page is locked.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

You'll need admin clearance. I'm afraid you'll have to wait.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

No. Unknown is better. He took a multiversal hit oped holes in space time like an extradimensional boom tube does and his presence alone effected constantine as if he was a singularity. He is too inconsistant

 

[RouninOtaku]

when did he take a multiversal attack?

 

[PancakeExterminator]

From a multiverse empowered landern with the power of infinite earths' green. Also New 52 anti monitor is, multiple times ,iplied to be a universe destroyer by metron who is nigh-omniscient. He said AM destroyed universes and caused them to be reborn and stuff. But he is inconsistent to. And ircc Empty hand revived the old true darkseid to poison the multiverse or something

 

[NotEvenHuman]

5-A. He's been delayed by Superma.

To be fair, he was already fighting against the rest of the Justice League before that, and was even stabbed in both eyes.Also, when he first appeared, his Omega Beams basically one-shotted Superman, he lolstomped Hal, and knocked out the entire Justice League with one attack.

 

[RouninOtaku]

From a multiverse empowered landern with the power of infinite earths' green. Also New 52 anti monitor is, multiple times ,iplied to be a universe destroyer by metron who is nigh-omniscient. He said AM destroyed universes and caused them to be reborn and stuff. But he is inconsistent to. And ircc Empty hand revived the old true darkseid to poison the multiverse or something

Anti-Monitor can only destroy universal with anti-matter, not with physical attacks.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

@NotEvenHuman which only makes him look inconsistent, which is what the crups of this argument is wholly dependent on. He can't be comparable to Superman, and greater than the entire Justice League combined, at the same time.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Ok so darkseid is no Umiverse+ But likely High universe level as he can easily open a 4 dimensional hole in space time and can take a infinite earths' green worth of power. New 52 has 52 universes in the core multiverse. It actually has infinite universes in totality as note multiple times. So High 3-A darkseid ?

 

[PancakeExterminator]

But unknown seem better as he did not godstomp jla. Just normally stomping them.

 

[Jucaslucas]

Alan wasn't multiversal. He just had the power of 52 earths.

I think we can easily scale all his stats from the League members. Stronger than Superman, and can fight on par with him.

And opening a hole in reality can't be that hard in dc, because firstborn did it too, and Wonder Woman was overpowering him:

 

[Jucaslucas]

And other thing, New 52 AM never destroyed an universe.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@NotEvenHuman which only makes him look inconsistent, which is what the crups of this argument is wholly dependent on. He can't be comparable to Superman, and greater than the entire Justice League combined, at the same time.

The thing is, he was only comparable to Superman after he did all of that, including being stabbed in both eyes, taking his own Omega Beams to the face, and fighting the rest of the Justice League at the same time. But still, 5-A is pretty accurate. Since i don't know how big is the difference between 5-A and High 5-A, couldn't his tier be High 5-A?

 

[RouninOtaku]

And other thing, New 52 AM never destroyed an universe.

AM wasn't affected by the timelines merging, he still retained all his memories and powers from Infinite Crisis.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Also god of light gl was High end High 3-A to low 2-C with the power of the motherbox. Darkseid can scale to that.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Alan had the power of all earths when he damaged darkseid. All earths in new 52 = infinite earths.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

... only comparable to Superman after he did all of that, including being stabbed in both eyes, taking his own Omega Beams to the face, and fighting the rest of the Justice League at the same time. But still, 5-A is pretty accurate. Since i don't know how big is the difference between 5-A and High 5-A, couldn't his tier be High 5-A?

Why yes...but...

Alan had the power of all earths when he damaged darkseid. All earths in new 52 = infinite earths.

What? Darkseid usually is shown to be much weaker than this. The linger this thread goes on, the more it becomes clear that attempting to find a trend between the DC continuity is pointless. I'm closing this until we get a proper feat instead of aimless powerscaling.