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is This OOC for palpatine to do against volde though Reaper?
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DARK LORDS FACE OFF (Palpatine vs Voldemort)
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Palpatine rarely uses his lightsaber for melee unless he has to or hes jobbing, generally, he'll use it to deflect ranged attacks.is This OOC for palpatine to do against volde though Reaper?
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If Voldemort struggles against canon palpatine just imagine what it would be like if it was legends palpatine.
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Palps once used it on Dooku but it was mostly for torture
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If he doesn't then well what are his Wincons ?
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Precoging where Voldy goes if he teleports at all and blasting him with Force Lightning or any other ranged force power. Not my circus not my monkeys otherwise, he could also knock out Voldy with a force choke or by groping his brain with the force, for instance.
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Hm.... alright not sure on this battle guess I'll just leave.
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WHAT?!! He used it against Yoda and Mace, who are massive threats to his plan.
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Notice how, against Yoda, he was trying his DAMDEST to get away to use force powers, and when Yoda got to him, he just unleashed his force lightning instead of trying to lightsaber fight him? Yeah, Palpatine didn't want to lightsaber fight Yoda and took literally every chance he could to get away and range spam.
And Mace was a case of good ol' overconfidence(Or needing Mace to put him on the ground for Anakin to turn fully), Palpatine wasn't really serious there, cause ya see, a serious Palpatine spams the **** out of his Force powers, when Maul pressured him even a little bit he dropped lightsaber combat and proceeded to go for force powers, against the damn Rylek Hive(Or whatever creature) that attacked him he didn't even bother with his lightsaber, when a few hundred storm troopers were marched against him he used force lightning to dispatch them, against Luke all he ******* did was force lightning, when Vader hit him with the force he hit back with the force, so on and so forth.
Palpy spams force powers.
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Still precogs and blasts the crap of Voldy with force power
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Yeah. Whether it be TK, Force Push, Force Crush, Force Choke, or the all important Force lightning, it doesn't take long for Voldemort's physical form to go down, but, like I said, not my circus not my monkeys otherwise
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Know grace ended, but I just want to cast my vote for Palpatine as well. I believe his higher AP and the fact that he spams force lightning plays a big factor. Voldemort is only 9-B physically, so he'd have to play very carefully and be sure to dodge or block every force lightning. If Palpatine decides to engage in lightsaber combat, Voldemort's really got no defense. Voldemort's got more variety with his powers, sure, and if his physical stats were 8-A too, it'd be a different story, but here that weakness is just too glaring for me to ignore.
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Although I'm not sure if ligthsaber combat is really helpful when Voldemort is gonna spam Tp.
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This match has been added, are you able to close the thread?
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I don't know how to close threads unfortunately
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Ahem. Voldemort has combat teleportation (remember the battle against Harry), mind reading and possession (he is the most powerful legilement in the verse), flying at hypersonic speed, non-wand magic, spells without projectile (transfiguration and charms) in fact, a lot more (not only horcruxes and existence in a spiritual and mental form). I just don't know how Palpatine could have done any damage to him at all. He can try to approach Vold at close range to start hitting with lightsabers, but he is too slow to do this against Tom, who can mentally teleport and, come on, Riddle will just fly constantly in the air and bombard Sidious Awad with a Kedavra (which can destroy souls).
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It seems like Anakin is the strongest in verse, isn't it?
However, Voldemort has top-level mind reading.
Wizards have a spell that deflects or blocks attacks
AP won't help against magic
A controversial point, yes, but without his corporeal shell, Tom can exist in a sub-spiritual and inhabit living beings
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This thread is old bruh. Also all your arguments fall apart easily.
Voldy's teleportation sure is helpful but Palps easily predicts his movements via precognition. Mind reading and possession wont work when Sidious also does that shit. How is flying at hypersonic speed gonna help when uhh....speed is equalize. If I didn't do that, Palps would blitzing Voldemort with that MHS scaling.
Wdym by
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Palps also has a spirit form. Horcuxes wont be relevant since they dont revive Voldemort mid figth since it took 14 years to do that lmao.
Why would Palpatine need to get close when....he just force chokes or blast lightning? Sure he could fly, only he Palps doesnt slam his face to the ground. Killing curse gets blocked by ligthsaber
1. Yes Anakin is the strongest at his peak. But Palpatine upscales from Vader and Luke's mindhax which surpass what we see in HPIt seems like Anakin is the strongest in verse, isn't it?
However, Voldemort has top-level mind reading.
Wizards have a spell that deflects or blocks attacks
AP won't help against magic
A controversial point, yes, but without his corporeal shell, Tom can exist in a sub-spiritual and inhabit living beings
2. Not layered
3. Not when his opponent is has higher AP and LS than him
4. Huh? You do realize Voldemort gets utterly oneshotted here?
5. Cant figth in that form and takes him a long ass time to get back.
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Uh... full potential Anakin, yeah! Not ******' Vader lol
papa palps resists Telepathy. Also this means nothing when Palpatine can just reduce him to his constituent atoms before Volde hits him, even deflecting that pesky death manip via lightsaber if needed
Not gonna work against a smack to the dome stronger then anything Voldemort's ever felt.Wizards have a spell that deflects or blocks attacks
Get invulnerability on the profiles and call me in the damn morning.
Even though he's never done this in-character
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What makes you think that mind reading won't work? Voldemort is cooler in this ability than Sidious (he > Dumbledore, who can break through mental defenses)
No one canceled the flight, but it is much more effective than regular walking
I know, but nevertheless, Palpatine has not demonstrated how he can fight while in this form. I repeat, Tom can be reborn on his own.
Well, Voldemort ignores his telekinesis with his shields or teleports away from his attack. Lightning strikes / reflects. Do you think that there is only Avada Kedavra in the verse?
1. Oh, are you talking about those planets and star clusters at Sidious and Luke?
2. Higher than Sidious's
3. You don't understand, it's Hax
4. I have already written above
5. He can inhabit Sidious and absorb his life force (he has already done this with his victims). As I have already written, he can be reborn himself and he does not need any help for this (he waited for so many years because he was creating an ideal body for himself against magic). And for the first time after "death" he moved into animals and people, quietly coexisting in their shell.
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Tom is stronger than Dumbledore in legilimency, who was able to break through mental resistances. Will he make it in time, or will Vold turn him into a ferret?
It's Hax, no matter how hard you hit
? I'm writing about magic, not physical characteristics.
What?
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Prove it.
Also prove that Volde will actually do this when he's never done this ever.
If it didn't matter, why does Voldemort have a statistic for his forcefields on his profile~?
Cry me a damn river if you want to continue to spout out No Limits Fallacies.
Out Of Character.
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It is known that Morfin possessed occlumency.
“You think he is mistaken? Or that I have somehow hoodwinked
him? Fooled the Dark Lord, the greatest wizard, the most accom plished Legilimens the world has ever seen?”
Oh, he did it throughout the fifth part, just look at the wiki.
These are force fields, not defensive spells
Why are you so aggressive?
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That's not sufficient proof. Try again.It is known that Morfin possessed occlumency.
“You think he is mistaken? Or that I have somehow hoodwinked
him? Fooled the Dark Lord, the greatest wizard, the most accom plished Legilimens the world has ever seen?"
I don't care about the wiki I want you to show me Volde here possessing someone who just reduced him to his constituent atoms right after he was killed.
Doesn't matter, it is a No Limits Fallacy to spout that AP doesn't matter, prove that Voldemort has reflected something as strong or consistent as Palpatine's lightning.
When someone clearly didn't read the thread in the first place plus is committing fallacies repeatedly-- even after being called out on it, yeah, Nice Reaper won't stay for long.Why are you so aggressive?
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Well, Sidious doesn't even have that.
Can you show me how Palpa will feel when he is turned into a ferret?
Do you know the meaning of the word "Hax"?
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He kinda does but then again, neither Harry Potter nor SW layers are accepted so non argument.
Do you know what a No Limits Fallacy is? Ya see, things like Attack Reflection require this thing called proof to deal with a certain AP threshold.Can you show me how Palpa will feel when he is turned into a ferret?
Do you know the meaning of the word "Hax"?
Anyways, you're a brick wall, I know you're a brick wall, so scream into a box, you won't have another response from me on these subjects.
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Tutaminis+force barriers and TK ragdoll GG. You realize killing curse and most offensive magic like Voldy has is still energy based or palpatine can answer. Palpatine tutaminis utterly negates fiendfyre and killing curse while force barriers are basically the equivalent to pretego. Crucio would make palpatine feed off the pain via force rage/dark rage and amplify him. Like most things voldy does is negated by palpatine while voldy has little answers to the force. Legilimancy wouldn’t even work while palpatine mind hax+precog would, and even then, palpatine passive force precog is still much better.
Also, SW canon/legends is outdated. Like so much so they’re being upgraded to 7-C while Legends is also being upgraded to 4-A. This would be a stomp once the CRT has been accepted as one TK blast obliterates voldy instantly. Voldy bloodlusted would do little as palpatine proceeds to evade the Killing curse or absorb with tutaminis while sending one blast at voldy, choking him, and he dies instantly. As of now, palpatine takes this since he has most if not many answers to voldy’s offensive abilities while voldy has to deal with class M TK attacks and force lightning
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Disney canon should 6-A honestly with the HR stuff
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Voldemort will turn Palpatine into a snake before he can do anything. Moreover, Tom can exist in the form of a spiritual thought, thereby ignoring all Sith attacks.
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Harry Potter should be upgraded to the universal level, as Dumbledore was able to create an exact copy of the world with a single drop of water and move it to a mirror dimension. At least the level of a star cluster, since statistical Death Eaters are able to explode a Dark Mark, which is described as a whole constellation of emerald stars, and at Hogwarts there is a pocket dimension of the whole cosmos on the ceiling, which contains galaxies, nebulae, etc.
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