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Yee I agree about Hax.
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Damn you PoC! (Devil May Cry Revisions)
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i completely disagree with 9-D anything, including hax. no proper evidence.
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Hax isn't 9-D, only Soul-related stuff is 9-D.
Also, that's not really a good justification at all, no elaboration on how you think it's not proper evidence (Despite it being blatant in the scan itself), you're just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing.
Either make a comprehensive argument for your case or don't engage in the thread at all. Either way, votes like that won't be counted. That's all I will say.
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I still have to make my reply to Glass. I'll do it after few hrs of classes.
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We have decided to keep 1-C AP out of this thread for now, we will tackle it in a different time.
Right now, we are only discussing the validity of High-Godly regen, normal hax and 9-dimensional souls.
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Tony and me still have possibilities 1C hax on mind. So mod approval is very important.
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I thought the current haxes weren't dependant on 9-D stuff.
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If 9-D soul get accepted then most hax that directly at soul like soul manip, concept manip will be 9-D, that a freaking smurf
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Gotcha.
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We're leaving that for later. We'll wait for further conclusive evidence.
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No? affecting HDE things is just range. granted you'd need 9D range to interact with the soul now, but its just that, range. without tier 1 their soul hax wont be smurf.
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nope, this not just affecting something at higher dimension because you can reach it, but blast it to nothing, so it potency will be 9-D, because if soul get accepted it will be a compactified 9-D construct inside a 3-D being
Any other than 9-D stuff i said before which i don't want to mention again or Gilver will again lost faith in humanity @.@. The only problem i have is scaling Dante hax to all Sparda bloodline, i can understand if it is scaling to Vergil and possibly Sparda alone, but Nero is a big no no
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Hax scaling and physiology is left for extremely last. But your opinion is noted.
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High Godly i will left it for other like Tony, i'm mostly neutral on this stuff
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That is fair.
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Oh, right. Yeah, I remember Ultima saying as much.
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Ultima disagrees. You can message him again if you don't believe me. He has explicitly made himself clear that being a 9-dimensional entity alone isn't necessarily grounds for a higher tier, we'd need an explicit indication that it refers to an infinitely-great difference in power.
DMC5 DT Nero: AM I DEADWEIGHT TO YOU?
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Well because stuff happen in PoC which chronologically after DMC3 and before DMC4 and 5, so i think scaling them to Nero a big no no, cuz Nero displayed so far very little abilities aside from raw power, scaling hall hax capable by Dante and Vergil is a bit insane
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i've already said there is no evidence for how higher dimensions work. it's pure wank. higher dimensions doesn't automatically mean higher infinities. if you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you.
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Bruh we left the whole 1-C AP for another thread now we were discussing the 9D souls
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which still has to do with the exact same statement. we have no idea how these dimensions actually operate.
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We aren't talking about the dimensions it's coming from we talking about the statement for the souls being nine dimensional forms the statement is literally so blatant with itself
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again, we do not know how higher dimensions work in DMC. higher dimensions in fiction do not all magically work the same way or even mostly the same way or in real life either. we need evidence on how they work in DMC.
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Aight go to a higher dimension and come back and tell me how does it function
DUH nobody knows how a higher dimensions works that's why in this wiki as long as you have blatant statements for it's enough
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you're completely missing the point. we need statements in whatever fiction we're discussing that proves higher dimensions work as higher infinities or reality above fiction. we just have a vague statement of "nine-dimensional" without any statements on how they work.
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Based reply.
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""Higher infinitues" are only needed for Tier 1. Not simple HDE.
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then what is the point of 9-D souls and HDE if it has nothing to do with higher infinities? seems pointless then on a battle wiki.
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HDE
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which means higher dimensional existence, right? but if it's not about higher infinities, why does this matter then? like in what way would it effect combat if it isn't higher infinities?
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9D range
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which is very weird considering what "9-D" is is very much unknown in DMC, unlike some other fictions that make it quite clear. i'm still against this.
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Dude....its a fundamental 9 dimensional form.
Just like cube is a fundamental 3 dimensional form or Tesseract is a 4 dimensional analog of cube.
We go with the most basic and default interpretation.
If you still have a problem...take it up Ultima, Elizhaa and Crimson. They assured 9D HDE as deserving upgrade bare minimum even before making the CRT.
If ""its not enough"" is all you have, then sadly your vote cannot be counted.
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so you just assume what higher dimensions are automatically even though it's baseless assumption? real life higher dimensions are theories with many different interpretations, and assuming which one a fiction follows, if any, without evidence is just wrong. i don't care what the mods think. it's factually illogical thinking and jumping to conclusion. if that's how this site works to this very day still somehow though, oh well then. what I say will just be stopped by "rules GG" so i'll leave you and this thread alone then since it's a lost cause.
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Farewell
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From my knowledgeable, this is not how it works.
Higher Dimensional Existence means that the character, or in this case the Soul, exist in an higher plane of existence. But for this to be true, there needs to be evidence that said higher plane is actually higher and not a simple Universe.
This means that said plane needs to meet the requirement of Higher Dimensions, like the lower dimension being infinitely smaller than the higher ones or a Reality - Fiction difference.
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