Cyborg vs a giant metal thing with gears

[ZillertheBucko]

I said my box was a tool of justice....wait, no
this is a one punch man match, actually

It's Drive Knight vs. Metal Knight, and it's gonna be a few rounds
The Rules
Speed is equalized
Both are in-character
uhhh this is an afterthought but drive knight doesn't have an intelligence rating so uhm uh, just assume he's above average for outsmarting nyan or something, that's weird

The Rounds
The first round is going to be on the spot with drive knight fighting metal knight's main drone, no prep time for either fella
The second round is going to be both having a month of prep. Metal knight assembles all his defenses and whatnot, and drive knight collects information on all metal knight's machinery or something.
And a for fun round, Metal knight with a year of prep time, vs the Promoted Rook duo (ten second mode not restricted)

First round
Drive Knight:
Metal knight:
Second round
Drive Knight:
Metal Knight:
Third round
Promoted Rook:
The Iron Legion:

 

[Kachon123]

Following. Really interesting matchup.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

Round 1 seems like a pretty easy win for Drive Knight imo. Metal Knight has no resistance to heat so Gold just melts him I guess.

I doubt Drive Knight would jump to Gold right away without prior knowledge or prep, but the Metal Knight drone really has nothing on him as far as I can tell.

Homing Missiles are countered by Drive Knight's Chariot or Flying Chariot and energy blasts, he can just drive/fly away and shoot the missiles down from a distance as he goes. With equalized speed they're not gonna catch up if he's ahead, and if it were unequalized he'd just be faster.

Even if he does end up in a spot where he'd be hit by the missiles, he can probably use Bishop to take the explosion.

Hacking is cool but can we just assume that Bofoi would somehow be able to hack Drive Knight because he's hacked the Hero Association? I feel like there isn't much ground to make there, at least not in a scenario with no prep.

If Gold's heat won't melt him, the acid from Chariot which Metal Knight also doesn't resist will.

Drive Knight will perform better in close range thanks to Silver as well.

Drive Knight has the variety in tactics that Metal Knight needs multiple robots for.

The other two rounds I'm not sure about considering Metal Knight's other robots aren't on the wiki rn and also just didn't really show much. But given the statements surrounding Metal Knight and his ability to outclass any lone hero etc, plus prep making hacking more likely, I think Bofoi has good chances there but I'd need to think on/look into it some more, probably best for me to leave that part to others lol.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

Wait, the Metal Knight drone's durability is listed as Large Town level? As in, High 7-C? Is that correct?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Wait, the Metal Knight drone's durability is listed as Large Town level? As in, High 7-C? Is that correct?

yeah, it is.

 

[Kachon123]

Wait, the Metal Knight drone's durability is listed as Large Town level? As in, High 7-C? Is that correct?

Yes,

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

Doesn't Drive Knight just one shot in round 1 then? What's the AP difference? Or well- AP to Dura difference, I guess. I know MK's missiles are Low 7-B.

 

[Kachon123]

1490 kilotons (Drive Knight) 156.75 kilotons (Metal Knight), so a gap of 9.50558214x.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

At first I thought he scaled to 681 kilotons but that's the wrong calc
yeah, seems like metal knight would most likely just shoot missiles while trying to stay out of range, since range is his only advantage here. He would indeed get one shot by drive knight, and would have to go the whole fight without getting hit to stay functional

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

I think he has a chance, considering that he can fly away to keep the range with speed equalized, and continue harassing Drive Knight with missiles, which like I said, he can deal with, but if he's too preoccupied with that he might not be able to get much actual offense off.

It could just become a match of them throwing missiles at each other until one messes up and gets hit.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

yeah, it's basically just a match in which both have even AP and speed and can fly and shoot stuff at eachother, but one of them has durability too low to take a hit
It seems like a mid-to mid-low diff, but a relatively simple win for drive knight in round one
....and metal knight's profile is a bit more bare bones than I originally realized when making this match, but whatever
the other 2 rounds are likely vastly more interesting

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Well, metal knight's security bots have energy projection and whatnot, and likely have low 7-B durability, so maybe this match should be interrupted with...a crt
I really should have thought of this beforehand but, what better time than the present.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

Agreed.

So what exactly do we assume Metal Knight would do with his prep? It seems like that would let Metal Knight access weapons allowing him an AP advantage, if he doesn't already have one with the missiles.

I imagine that if his robots are limited to what we have seen, Drive Knight can battle his way past most of them for the same reasons I listed in my first post, but having to continuously fight through Metal Knight's legion of robots is probably going to exhaust Drive Knight's energy reserves. I wonder if he can absorb energy from the wiring of Metal Knight's robots? If not, he might end up a sitting duck after some time.

I know he was up to 'dozens of hours of continuous operation', but how much of that time was actually spent expending large amounts of energy in fights?

I feel like you could potentially say that with a months prep Bofoi might be able to hack Drive Knight, but it's iffy to me cause we've never actually seen him hack a robot. Realistically, I don't doubt that he could do it, but I feel like that's a lot different from getting into some encrypted database.

Drive Knight's prep may be less noteworthy, he was able to find out about the Monster Association base through interrogating monsters, and just so happened to stumble across Nyan fighting the Surface Team to watch that. What's he going to do to find out where Bofoi is building his robots? Who'll he interrogate? Hero Association execs probably don't know anything. Child Emperor? That's a whole other vs thread. The most he'll be able to do is throw some weak monsters at the Hero Association defense system and see what comes out.

Metal Knight might be able to take round 2 just by spamming robots, lol.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Child Emperor? That's a whole other vs thread.

wait yo holdup child emperor has way more interesting abilities than metal knight
.....
I may or may not make another vs thread in the near future

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

wait yo holdup child emperor has way more interesting abilities than metal knight
.....
I may or may not make another vs thread in the near future

I also think that would be pretty interesting.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

So what exactly do we assume Metal Knight would do with his prep? It seems like that would let Metal Knight access weapons allowing him an AP advantage, if he doesn't already have one with the missiles.

Essentially he'd get underground mobility + strength in numbers. And also lasers and information analysis but, I'm gonna have to make the crt for that

I imagine that if his robots are limited to what we have seen, Drive Knight can battle his way past most of them for the same reasons I listed in my first post, but having to continuously fight through Metal Knight's legion of robots is probably going to exhaust Drive Knight's energy reserves. I wonder if he can absorb energy from the wiring of Metal Knight's robots? If not, he might end up a sitting duck after some time.

I imagine that he could absorb energy from metal knight's drones, although, metal knight does install self destruct mechanisms, as you can clearly see on the.....profile....
uh, ok I might need to add a few things before we can keep going with this

 

[Kachon123]

I know I can't just give people abilities, but we kinda have to to some extent when putting Drive Knight and Metal Knight against each other with 1 month of prep time. Here we go.


Both Bofoi and DK are extremely smart fighters, with the former having taught Child Emperor everything he knows and the latter literally having his fighting style centered around having prep time.

As for the fight, I can see Bofoi realizing that a potential weakness for Drive Knight could be an army of robots that each have unique abilities. This would make it difficult for Drive Knight to switch between forms in order to counter effectively. Though Drive Knight is not dumb enough to be oblivious to this weakness as well. I believe that Drive Knight would be able to create something similar to Child Emperor's Bug Basket-kun, but on a much larger scale. I also don't think it's much of a stretch to believe that Drive Knight would be capable of doing this, as he has been shown to do something somewhat similar before. That should be able to take out the majority of Bofoi's main attack robots.

Drive Knight should be able to destroy Bofoi's missiles with his own lasers, so those wouldn't be an issue for him either. Bofoi's best bet for winning is overwhelming Drive Knight by clustering around him, but he can just counter that with Silver.

Voting Drive Knight for both rounds 1 and 2.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

as you can clearly see on the.....profile....

uh, ok I might need to add a few things before we can keep going with this

Yeah might be that way.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

I know I can't just give people abilities, but we kinda have to to some extent when putting Drive Knight and Metal Knight against each other with 1 month of prep time. Here we go.


Both Bofoi and DK are extremely smart fighters, with the former having taught Child Emperor everything he knows and the latter literally having his fighting style centered around having prep time.

As for the fight, I can see Bofoi realizing that a potential weakness for Drive Knight could be an army of robots that each have unique abilities. This would make it difficult for Drive Knight to switch between forms in order to counter effectively. Though Drive Knight is not dumb enough to be oblivious to this weakness as well. I believe that Drive Knight would be able to create something similar to Child Emperor's Bug Basket-kun, but on a much larger scale. I also don't think it's much of a stretch to believe that Drive Knight would be capable of doing this, as he has been shown to do something somewhat similar before. That should be able to take out the majority of Bofoi's main attack robots.

Drive Knight should be able to destroy Bofoi's missiles with his own lasers, so those wouldn't be an issue for him either. Bofoi's best bet for winning is overwhelming Drive Knight by clustering around him, but he can just counter that with Silver.

Voting Drive Knight for both rounds 1 and 2.

This is a good analysis, I more or less agree with all you had to say. But once Self Destruction is added as an option, if Drive Knight gets through a lot of the robots without difficulty, do you think Bofoi might try to do something like group a bunch of robots on DK, and self destruct them? Silver might not be enough to stop that, and even Bishop was broken by Psykojet, who'd have less AP than Bofoi's robots in this case, if I'm not mistaken.