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If we don't autoscale via speed anymore does that mean AP gets the same treatment?Oh well, that helps I guess
Still, afaik a Dragon doesn't auto scales higher than a Demon in speed anymore, so we should change FU's speed description to his feats against the S Class, while Amai Mask scales to him + being above the other A heroes
I dunno ? I said that because I saw Hypersonic Melzalgald, so I assumed speed went for direct scaling and not by rankings, but AP should still scale if u ask me, while the series showed numerous times that speed varies, AP is consistent between the threat levelsIf we don't autoscale via speed anymore does that mean AP gets the same treatment?
As I said (and was agreed to) in the other thread, AP's fine unless there's circumstances to suggest that isn't the case (like having Death Manipulation or something).If we don't autoscale via speed anymore does that mean AP gets the same treatment?
@ByAsuraSo have you reached any conclusions, and what is left to do here?
I mean We already Boros is superior to the Hypersonic scaling. To say "possibly Hypersonic" is pretty misleading.I guess “Unknown, possibly Hypersonic or higher” could work.
@ByAsura @LordTracerI mean We already Boros is superior to the Hypersonic scaling. To say "possibly Hypersonic" is pretty misleading.
I'd say we might as just stick to "At least Hypersonic, possibly far higher"
That’s what I originally suggested smhI mean We already Boros is superior to the Hypersonic scaling. To say "possibly Hypersonic" is pretty misleading.
I'd say we might as just stick to "At least Hypersonic, possibly far higher"
Can I get a TLDR for this?That’s what I originally suggested smh
Armored Boros scales above his subordinates, who are getting downgraded to Hypersonic since Dragon levels aren’t necessarily faster than Demon levels.Can I get a TLDR for this?
Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. I disagree with hypersonic. I think it should be lower.Armored Boros scales above his subordinates, who are getting downgraded to Hypersonic since Dragon levels aren’t necessarily faster than Demon levels.
I know what you up to I'm putting an end to your nefarious actsHmm. Hmm. Interesting. I disagree with hypersonic. I think it should be lower.
PPP was able to react to Bang perception blitzing Melz. PPP only scales to the SK's in his ealier key. In this key, he would scale to Bang in this key.There are several reasons why Melzy (and by extension, Boros) should not be hypersonic at all.
The OP points out that we're no longer gonna scale speed from threat levels. Good. Because of that, theres no reason why Sky King should be hypersonic. He's hypersonic because I'm assuming it's from him being comparable to Sea King. The same Sea King who was equal to PPP then later blitzed him and got even faster than that. PPP later on blitzed Melzy many times before he could react.
The logic we currently present on the pages are Melzy > Sky King = Sea King >= PPP > Melzy??? It makes no sense. I've read the alien arc dozens of times for the past couple of months and every S Class member that comes across Melzy blitzes the poor dude.
He shouldn't scale to Bang either because he was holding back and even perception blitzed him earlier.
As a side note it's stated that Iaian was toying with his enemy and was noticeably blitzing Melzy while fighting him. Only having his arm taken off due to getting caught off guard and likely toying around.
Since hypersonic wouldn’t be an option, I suggest supersonic+. I made a calc off site of a feat Melzargard performed and I can remake it in a blog here. This affects Released Boros because he has no speed feats.
Would you be able to import that calc to here?Since hypersonic wouldn’t be an option, I suggest supersonic+. I made a calc off site of a feat Melzargard performed and I can remake it in a blog here. This affects Released Boros because he has no speed feats.
The point of me saying that isn't really to put him at Bang's level, it was to put PPP above Melz to counter what Zamasu said.PPP should not scale to Bang just because he reacted to him, even if that was Bang's full speed (we know it wasn't because of what he says after Mel punches him).
I'll just do that and replace all his former scaling with the quote that places them as equals.Sky King's profile has so few justifications that it should be deleted to be honest.
Yes.Would you be able to import that calc to here?
Thanks.
Saitama gets his 5-B by upscaling from a Low 5-B+ character, so he probably shouldn’t have an At least there.This is just a note that I performed the following changes to the Saitama page earlier today. Is this acceptable?
Saitama
Saitama (サイタマ?) is a human from Z-City who; through rigorous (sort of) training broke through his human limiters and achieved unbelievable strength and abilities. Never breaking a sweat, the name One Punch Man is fitting for the effortless wins Saitama has achieved through the series. Never...vsbattles.fandom.com
Well, I think that adding "At least" is our standard approach when writing "likely far higher" at the end of a statistic.Saitama gets his 5-B by upscaling from a Low 5-B+ character, so he probably shouldn’t have an At least there.
As far as I can tell, the descriptions of ‘At least’ and ‘higher’ on the Attack Potency page doesn’t say anything about doing that.Well, I think that adding "At least" is our standard approach when writing "likely far higher" at the end of a statistic.