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I believe it depends on the universe he's fighting against. Typically even with the minor amount of organic matter left on Smasher would indicate he has a soul.
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Cyberpunk Discussion Thread
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"You think you're special because you're scrappy. Don't make me laught" is a better quote for him
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I had that earlier but I felt it may be to wordy. I could clip it and change it if that's what people want to go with.
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The blog has been updated with 2 new calcs one isn't impressive only reaching Subsonic+ but the other has 2 Hypersonic ends and a pretty high Supersonic+ end so things are looking good
Cyberpunk 2077 Various Bullet dodging feats
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All of these are values that have been accepted as of now for all my calcs
Calc 1: 842.333333 (Supersonic) literally right off of Supersonic+
Calc 2: 511.472592m/s (Supersonic)
Calc 3: 220.502869m/s (Subsonic+) abysmal
Calc 4: 718.629748m/s (Supersonic)
if someone manages to get better footage please send it over since I'm having no luck getting any of my hypersonic and Supersonic+ ends through the door however even without them being accepted I can say for certain that with the calcs I did hypersonic was at least just as common an end as the supersonic ones were so definitely leaves the door there open thereby leaving the door open for much higher tiered speeds thanks to the sandevistan multipliers
Calc 1: 842.333333 (Supersonic) literally right off of Supersonic+
Calc 2: 511.472592m/s (Supersonic)
Calc 3: 220.502869m/s (Subsonic+) abysmal
Calc 4: 718.629748m/s (Supersonic)
if someone manages to get better footage please send it over since I'm having no luck getting any of my hypersonic and Supersonic+ ends through the door however even without them being accepted I can say for certain that with the calcs I did hypersonic was at least just as common an end as the supersonic ones were so definitely leaves the door there open thereby leaving the door open for much higher tiered speeds thanks to the sandevistan multipliers
this is good to note I may just do some calcs of just that 2.4 meters using the tabletop game mechanics as justifications for the calc with 8 reflexes being enough to dodge all gunfire given a good enough roll, @Naitodesu can you explain in detail how the dodging works in the tabletop stuff do you move to different spaces once you do dodge?
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There actually isn't a mention of whether you move a certain number of spaces when you dodge, but I think it depends also on the specific dodge check. It would be safe to assume that at most, a character moves 2 meters/yards (we'll still need to determine which end works because Cyberpunk uses both) when they dodge because this is what's used for Evasion checks to escape Blast Radius of an explosive.
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well shit tabletop may have better feats off of that alone dodging a tech weapon and moving about the same distance it has to cover all in one will easily yield hypersonic results
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Sorry, not yet. I'll get to it, but I've been focusing on another verse in private. Trying to balance between 3 verses rn.
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You can roll evasion checks at distances close to point blank as well
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Not sure how much this'd help out the verse, but IIRC, in the Anime, there are some scenes where guns or some weapon completely turns a human into red paste/red mist. I think it'd be fine to assume all bones in the body were completely destroyed, which according to the references for common feats page is 583.398 Kilojoules. A bit higher than the Gorilla Arms feat. This would scale to anyone who can takes shots from the weapon that did the feat (Pretty sure it was done by Maine).
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I feel ya a versr I'm indexing solo just wrapped up its series finale so lots to do there
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Afaik its with Maine's arm cannon and Rebecca's LMG (though her stuff only involved the torso).
Well they aren't bad, but yeah I was expecting more. I guess it can be inconsistent with what Tech weapons they can and can't dodge.
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Oh, if it was with Maine's arm cannon, people can def scale to it since it's a very weak weapon in 2077.
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More heavily armored/durable guys would theoretically scale to tanking explosives that have about a 5-7 meter/yard radius, which goes up to a few million joules if taken point blank (though this would be the total upper bound)
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Funny video Smasher just gets absolutely blitzed and shit on he can't even take out one Cyberpsycho and is just a slow clunky mess though he never was made for this kind of group fight it's pretty sad when he's focused on one enemy and just attacks whist standing still no matter how close they are with them just eating what he throws at them
It's probably been the most requested thing every since 1.6 now that Edgerunners is released and people have been taking a real look at Smasher's fight mechanics and A.I. dude sucks in game
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Adam Smashed
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To be fair, this is the case with Fromsoft games with bosses who killed hundreds in lore but fold against like ten enemies in the actual boss fight
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Honestly, i’m not sure if in game Adam Smasher will ever be able to live up to the expectations that edgerunners set.
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You'd have to overhaul the fight for that to happen. I think the big issue is that if you want a big Edgerunner's-esq spectacle fight I don't think Cyberpunk is correctly set up for that. You have to make Smasher generic enough for everyone to fight him and since he's a required fight and not an optional fight like Malenia or the Nameless King he can't be too difficult to go against.
Like at the moment if they had to adjust it they would need to either adjust scaling, make different versions of Adam Smasher depending on the PCs level or swap him out with someone else and make the fight some bonus thing.
Like at the moment if they had to adjust it they would need to either adjust scaling, make different versions of Adam Smasher depending on the PCs level or swap him out with someone else and make the fight some bonus thing.
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I mean, I see no reason why simply because Adam is an required enemy he must be obligatorily generic and easy.
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I'm not saying he should be, but since he's a required fight and you have to account for different playstyles Smasher can't be too well rounded or focused. But it usually means a hyper-optimized V will just roll him. The best choice for Smasher would've probably been just make different versions of the character based on what level the PC is and give him more stuff based on that.
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Hey in episode 9 of the anime David yanks two vehicles hard enough to flip them, without even having the cyberskeleton.
I think this could be used for LS and potentially AP of his Post-Timeskip body.
The feat happens at 11:20 of episode 9.
I think this could be used for LS and potentially AP of his Post-Timeskip body.
The feat happens at 11:20 of episode 9.
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Yeah I love those videos too lol
Nah I don't but dude definitely needs major rework and A.I improvements to at least make it stand better on it's own
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Yeah. Really for me the hardest part is that most of the time I braindead into melee builds and the only time I die to him are the ones where I accidently eat like fifty missiles at once rather than anything else.
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I think this feat shouldn't be ignored.
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Literally how I play and what my current build is that's why I'm gonna try and play full netrunner type here but even cyberpunk aside that's how I do most of my builds in other stuff like soulsborne games tho I do spec into faith in those as well
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Afaik I don't think he yanks them. The Edgerunner car shoots the harpoon, David catches it and places the harpoon on the other side of a rock and then tells Falco to hit the breaks.
The most he does it maybe hold the harpoon in place, but even then the harpoon has rocket thrusters and is digging into a rock, so its not all him either.
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Dunno if it means much, but in Cyberpunk 2020: Heavy Metal page 57-58 the following is said:
So its possible that, scaling wise, anything doing >4D10 damage is hitting harder than a car going 40 MPH.
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How much force do you need to exert this much force again?
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217 kilojoules according to my napkin math.
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Oh I misinterpreted the feat. He is holding the harpoon against the rock. But even still, if not for his strength the car would've just continued without resistance.
Tho I am not sure if it is calculatable, unfortunately.
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Also regular cars in Cyberpunk RED go up to 100 MPH and deal 6d6 damage when doing a collision with a player, which players can potentially survive
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That sounds like it'd be decently into 9-B.
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Would also like to point out that I've calculated explosives with more or less comparable radii to that of Cyberpunk explosives (which have an AOE effect of 10 m/yds), and the full yield is about 0.01 tons of TNT
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Cyberpunk really got a miraculous second chance uh
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Thankfully
