Cthulhu Mythos: Content Revision (Downgrade)

[Lewis]

Still no staff agrees with trade and objections. Well, it looks like Ultima is sticking to the current tier of Cthulhu mythos, maybe calling an Ant to end this unrelated conversation.

 

[Darksmash]

0-D isn't Undimensioned. It's Zero Dimensions. Something can be 0-D and still possess coordinates.

It can be undimensioned in the sense that it has no size in any dimensions. Coordinates have nothing to do with the object's own properties.

 

[Gasper]

It can be undimensioned in the sense that it has no size in any dimensions. Coordinates have nothing to do with the object's own properties.

But it isn't undimensoned.

 

[Gasper]

Undimensoned is synonymous with dimensionless aka having no dimensions. 0 dimensional is still dimensional nonetheless.

 

[Tarang123]

Undimensoned is synonymous with dimensionless aka having no dimensions. 0 dimensional is still dimensional nonetheless.

That doesn't really make sense, no? 0D by nature lacks dimensions altogether

 

[Gasper]

That doesn't really make sense, no? 0D by nature lacks dimensions altogether

Yes it does make sense. Lmaoo
0 dimensional isn't superior to any dimensions lol

 

[Tarang123]

Yes it does make sense. Lmaoo
0 dimensional isn't superior to any dimensions lol

Why would lacking dimensions automatically make you above them?

 

[Darksmash]

Undimensoned is synonymous with dimensionless aka having no dimensions. 0 dimensional is still dimensional nonetheless.

I am not giving you basic math lessons but 0 of something means nothing of it.

 

[Gasper]

Why would lacking dimensions automatically make you above them?

Because the story is literally talking about higher dimensions and how outer extension is undimensoned. Please drop this stupid ass argument above being undimensoned is 0 D

 

[Gasper]

I am not giving you basic math lessons but 0 of something means nothing of it.

Mate, show me one scan in the entire story where it's stated they are 0 D. You are making your own headcanon.

 

[Darksmash]

Mate, show me one scan in the entire story where it's stated they are 0 D. You are making your own headcanon.

I never said they are 0D. I simply can't show scans for what words mean. Undimensioned is undimensioned.

 

[Tarang123]

Because the story is literally talking about higher dimensions and how outer extension is undimensoned. Please drop this stupid ass argument above being undimensoned is 0 D

It literally says it's only above the dimensions that are known

 

[Gasper]

I never said they are 0D. I simply can't show scans for what words mean. Undimensioned is undimensioned.

Yes, not 0 dimensional as you are making it out to be.

 

[Darksmash]

Yes, not 0 dimensional as you are making it out to be.

I didn't say it meant 0 dimensional here. I just said it doesn't mean beyond dimensions

 

[Gasper]

It literally says it's only above the dimensions that are known

Known dimensions are geometrical dimensions, mathematical as you will.
"Unknown dimensions" could be referring to completely unknown dimensions or realms. Hell, in Whisperer in Darkness Lovecraft refers to universes as dimensions.

 

[Gasper]

I didn't say it meant 0 dimensional here. I just said it doesn't mean beyond dimensions

With no actual proof.

 

[Darksmash]

With no actual proof.

I don't think you can read because the OP provided multiple explicit instances of it being called dimensioned.

 

[Tarang123]

Known dimensions are geometrical dimensions, mathematical as you will.
"Unknown dimensions" could be referring to completely unknown dimensions or realms. Hell, in Whisperer in Darkness Lovecraft refers to universes as dimensions.

That's not what it's saying lmfao. It's saying it's above the established dimensions of the universe

 

[Gasper]

I don't think you can read because the OP provided multiple explicit instances of it being called dimensioned.

Nope, no proof at all. Dimensioned in the mind of Randolph Carter.

 

[Gasper]

That's not what it's saying lmfao. It's saying it's above the established dimensions of the universe

Exactly. What's your point?

 

[Darksmash]

Nope, no proof at all. Dimensioned in the mind of Randolph Carter.

Nice headcanon you got there. Just like the headcanon of the Carter in your headcanon.

 

[Tarang123]

Exactly. What's your point?

Meaning it being undimensioned is only relative to the number of dimensions in the universe. If the number of dimensions in the universe isn't infinite or whatever, then the gates themselves would only be one higher infinity above that

 

[Gasper]

Nice headcanon you got there. Just like the headcanon of the Carter in your headcanon.

Read the actual story. No headcanon here. Btw, Ultima already debunk your bullshit headcanon multiple times too.

 

[Gasper]

Meaning it being undimensioned is only relative to the number of dimensions in the universe. If the number of dimensions in the universe isn't infinite or whatever, then the gates themselves would only be one higher infinity above that

There are infinite. Clearly no one here actually read the story. Sad.

 

[Nostredam]

I would appreciate if you guys stop derailing the thread. Thanks

 

[Tarang123]

Nope, no proof at all. Dimensioned in the mind of Randolph Carter.

Any scans that it's only in his perspective and not just as the objective nature of the gates?

 

[Tarang123]

There are infinite. Clearly no one here actually read the story. Sad.

You do realize that the purpose of the thread is to counter that, right?

 

[Gasper]

Any scans that it's only in his perspective and not just as the objective nature of the gates?

It's in the cosmology page. You would know if you actually read it.

 

[Gasper]

You do realize that the purpose of the thread is to counter that, right?

It's literally out right stated there are an infinite amount of them. Lol

 

[Nostredam]

I was asked to give my input here, but due to lacking significant background about the verse, I am not entirely certain what the points of contention are for each side. Everything is being written about with fairly dense prose, and with a lack of a frame of reference for the structure of the cosmology, I would need a concise and concrete summary of why the verse is tiered the way it is, and the specific "point of failure" in that chain that the OP is objecting to, with a brief description of what the evidence is, and why it should be interpreted differently.

Wish I could help more, but I can't make heads or tails of what anyone is really saying here.

Hi. I would like to ask you if you could ban the "Gasper" user in this thread. He's pretty much just here to type utterly irrelevant and hostile comments rather than being here to debate.

 

[Gasper]

Ignorance at it's finest. Lmaoo

 

[Darksmash]

Read the actual story. No headcanon here. Btw, Ultima already debunk your bullshit headcanon multiple times too.

I have read it. Also idk what you mean by "debunk" the previous thread was simply decided by vote count(and if you think anyone actually read the debate between me and Ultima then lmao)

 

[Gasper]

I have read it. Also idk what you mean by "debunk" the previous thread was simply decided by vote count(and if you think anyone actually read the debate between me and Ultima then lmao)

I did read the whole debate, yes.

Also, i am going to get banned so i won't be able to respond anymore.

 

[Darksmash]

I did read the whole debate, yes.

Well you also claim to have read the story. So I don't doubt that your reading comprehension simply sucks. But ok.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

For what it's worth, ranking "undimensioned" and "transdimensional" as 1-A is actually probably less than where Ultima wants them, as he's been arguing for such statements to be High 1-A in this thread, which DontTalkDT has blocked with counterarguments that Ant and AKM have agreed to.

 

[Darksmash]

For what it's worth, ranking "undimensioned" and "transdimensional" as 1-A is actually probably less than where Ultima wants them, as he's been arguing for such statements to be High 1-A in this thread, which DontTalkDT has blocked with counterarguments that Ant and AKM have agreed to.

That's for "beyond dimensions". The terms you mentioned don't mean that unless proven by other means.

 

[Antvasima]

So has this thread been rejected then?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

So has this thread been rejected then?

not really, we have 1 agree, 2 disagree and waiting for ultima to respond

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Which staff members agree and disagree here?

 

[AKUTO123]

Okay. Which staff members agree and disagree here?

Disagree: ultima planck
Agree: ovy7