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Actually we have seen nothing except the unbalance we didn’t see any destruction and my point is that it doesn’t scale to stats either but still is listed
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Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Seriously the others really need to chill out
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They’re not very logical though, need i remind you the original argument you made was for Multi-Solar System level and Universe level+, which makes even less sense
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No just cause you are contradicting yourself you are the one saying creation shouldn’t be accepted yet you want to keep it at Planetary with creation
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Because Chaos actually uses it for combat. That’s why it’s only acceptable for Chaos
PrinceofPein
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So “Unknown via creation” like I already proposed?
Since it’s literally unknown
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The thing is that I don’t have a problem with it being listed on profiles since it adds details and as a user it makes it easier to understand
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If a character uses the same power they use to create something, but for combat, they can get a tier for that. That’s all I’m saying
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It ain’t unknown tho i already explained why
speedster352
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No it’s not I am using the actual manga what your using is fan made with fan translations that’s is right.
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ED isn’t combat appliable And they can use their graces offensively as for Chaos He can use it offensively too
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It’s actually the reverse. Fan translations of any manga keep the editors notes, while the officials discard them
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Weren’t you arguing about it not being physical stats ?
speedster352
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That is wrong it goes against author intent
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“Author intent” when it’s called an editor’s note, yeah okay
speedster352
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Exactly it’s a note about the series if the editor says the sky is blue then isn’t the sky blue?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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He said that chaos would scale to physical stats while DK and GS doesn't scale to their physicals so needs to remove correct me if i'm wrong tho clover
speedster352
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What about cath saying he will consume everything with a form?
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They can use their power offensively too And they could fight Chaos Meli too is stated to be close to his power
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I need to take a moment to fully understand everything, I got too heated over this. I’ll form a final opinion on this after, so a summary of all the points thus far would be appreciated
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To be fair, the editor helps the author with new ideas and suggestions
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Cath too damaged fused Arthur And was about to kill him
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Are you trying to get this thread closed down?
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I already mentioned this is too vague. “Anything” sure, but is this instant? Is it an overtime feat? What sorts of things is he consuming? Is there any hyperbole in what’s being said?
speedster352
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What different would it make? Why take a fan version of a manga when I have the actual manga that has the editor note
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Yeah, but using that as the only proof is very sketchy
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You have the fan translated version. I’m not repeating myself on this
speedster352
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But he mentions stars. He was a threat to chaos himself same for the SD and DK so it makes sense he can destroy stars.
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Doubt he would be hyperbolic when asked his true goals
speedster352
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How? If the editor says the sky is blue isn’t the sky blue? If the editor says that purgatory is hot is that wrong?
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Yeah fair but the point is you’ve gotta ask a lot of questions about that kind of statement. That makes it really hard to quantifyDoubt he would be hyperbolic when asked his true goals
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This is a hilariously bad comparison
speedster352
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You don’t say. What’s the problem with it? Isn’t it true
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He says that when saying all things die eventually. That’s not relevant. You’re regurgitating the same addresses points over and over again ad nauseum
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Comparing a statement about size to a statement that anyone who can see can verify is very… yikes
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Ok
So first of ALL the reason of the existence of the thread
-Multi solar system Chaos using the destruction of ALL forms the majority is against therefore It should be rejected
-The dimensions containing stars And moons everybody agreed on that
-Chaos scaling to his own Chaos energy since He can use it offensively therefore him getting 5-B rating in physical i partially agree And some of y’all agree too yet i think we should acknowledge the creation feat Using a « possibly high 4-C » listing
-Deities And Archangels Using their graces offensively i think every one will agree on this one
-dimensions being created in very short timespans multiple people agreed but not everybody
-Purgatory being inf Using the cover every one except Speedster disagree
I think it’s almost everything
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He wouldn’t be hyperbolic while explaining his objective as a « pure cluster of destruction »
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I agree, even the statement "everything with a form will perish" is hard enough to quantify
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Tho Using their 5-B rating Meli the deities cath etc… could be upgraded to 5-B too
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Yep, disagree with 4-A Chaos
This is the main point of contention in my opinion. We see stars, but are they really a part of the dimensions? Chaos, for example, was said to be born in some isolated place among several, several stars. Plus, with all the showings of places like the Demon Realm (I've been trying to find as many as I can). It appears more so that the moons and all that are things that were already present, with the Demon Realm being a planet amidst those things. Seems more like 5-B with Creation for me.
Going off of this, given Chaos' use of this energy, I think he should get 5-B with Reality Warping. This is kinda like the Shiki and Pain examples you used, if I had to draw a comparison
Yeah, so 5-B with Creation (or something like High 6-C, 5-B with Graces)
I'm neutral on this one. I can see it, but it's also rather unknown how long it takes.
Big disagree with Purgatory being infinite in size.
So, my actual verdict is Chaos getting 5-B with Reality Warping and Supreme Deity/Demon King getting 5-B with Graces. I can see the arguments for High 4-C, but based on what I'm seeing, it appears to me that the sun/stars and that were already existing, with the Demon Realm simply existing amidst those things.
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