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Create your own Downplay

The Amaranth is only tiered so high because of flowery language that has confused the moderators. At best, it is low 2-C.
 
I'm lazy, so I'm going to repost some Creation Trio downplay I posted a while back. Though considering it didn't attract much attention, perhaps it isn't worth reposting, or is too long for people's tastes. Oh well. May as well see if I can't find out if that's the case.

Hmmm. Let's start with Palkia.
DiamondIt has the ability to distort space. It is described as a deity in Sinnoh-region mythology.
PearlIt is said to live in a gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours. It appears in mythology.
PlatinumA legendary Pokémon of Sinnoh. It is said that space becomes more stable with PALKIA’s every breath.
HeartGold
SoulSilver
Its total control over the boundaries of space enable it to transport itself to faraway places or even other dimensions.
Black
White
Black 2
White 2
A legendary Pokémon of Sinnoh. It is said that space becomes more stable with Palkia’s every breath.
X
Omega Ruby
It is said to live in a gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours. It appears in mythology.
Y
Alpha Sapphire
It has the ability to distort space. It is described as a deity in Sinnoh-region mythology.

Is stated it can distort space, as though that's notable, therefore merely distorting space is the most Palkia can do.

Described as a deity in Sinnoh Mythology, implying it may not be one elsewhere, such as in reality, & thus, doesn't have powers like those one might expect of a deity.

Lives in the gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours, implying it is better suited to that habitat, & performs less ideally outside of that.

Only has total control over the boundaries of space, not control over the things within those boundaries, & only for transportation.

Legendary Pokemon of Sinnoh, thus, Palkia does not qualify as Legendary compared to the Legendary Pokemon of other regions; It's just that weak by comparison.

Palkia needs to breath regularly to keep space stable, so it must be constantly hyperventilating during fights to avoid damaging space when it uses its powers in a fight. Thus, it collapses quickly.


Now what about Dialga?

DiamondIt has the power to control time. It appears in Sinnoh-region myths as an ancient deity.
PearlA Pokémon spoken of in legend. It is said that time began moving when DIALGA was born.
PlatinumA legendary Pokémon of Sinnoh. It is said that time flows when DIALGA’s heart beats.
HeartGold
SoulSilver
This Pokémon completely controls the flow of time. It uses its power to travel at will through the past and future.
Black
White
Black 2
White 2
A legendary Pokémon of Sinnoh. It is said that time flows when Dialga’s heart beats.
X
Omega Ruby
A Pokémon spoken of in legend. It is said that time began moving when Dialga was born.
Y
Alpha Sapphire
It has the power to control time. It appears in Sinnoh-region myths as an ancient deity.

The power to control time, singular, therefore it only has one form of time manipulation, & not only is it so limited, but since it's unspecified, we don't know what it can do with its Time Manipulation, making Dialga's Time Manipulation inapplicable.

Only spoken of in Legend, & not described by them or having Legends about it; It's so obscure, weak & unimportant that it's only mentioned in passing in legends.

Dialga couldn't hatch until time began moving, thus being a supposed master of time that required time to begin.

Time flows when Dialga's heart beats, therefore it stops its heart when it stops time & compresses it to rewind time, making it prone to cardiac arrest when it uses its powers.

Controls the flow of time, implying motion, not the stopping or travel outside or through it.

The past and future, so it can only go to the past and future of 1 timeline, that being the one it's in.


& I guess Giratina is part of the Creatio Trio, too, since Arceus is technically the trio master, no?

Diamond
Pearl
A Pokémon that is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. It appears in an ancient cemetery.
PlatinumIt was banished for its violence. It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World.
HeartGold
SoulSilver
This Pokémon is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours, where common knowledge is distorted and strange.
Black
White
Black 2
White 2
It was banished for its violence. It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World.
X
Omega Ruby
This Pokémon is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours, where common knowledge is distorted and strange.
Y
Alpha Sapphire
It was banished for its violence. It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World.

When they say the reverside of our world, they don't mean another dimension, they mean the underside of the Earth's crust; Giratina doesn't actually manage its own dimension & just lives in the Earth's core, moving around upside down related to Sinnoh.

Banished for its violence, but only managed to silently gaze upon the old world, showing it couldn't just destroy its prison & come back.

Since it was banished to The Distortion World, we can presume its violence isn't dangerous enough that it would be assumed it'd do any harm to the Distortion World. Thus, Giratina can't break rocks & trees & plants.

Giratina lives in a world where common knowledge is distorted & strange (& probably doesn't remember being outside of the Distortion World anyway.) so its intelligence is about as coherent as the equivalent of scrambled alphabet soup, & it has no common sense, nor any comprehension of tactics, making it one of the least intelligent Pokemon ever.


& of course, Arceus.

DiamondIt is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
PearlIt is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
PlatinumIt is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.
HeartGold
SoulSilver
According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.
Black
White
It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.
Black 2
White 2
It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing then shaped the world.
X
Omega Ruby
According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.
Y
Alpha Sapphire
It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.

Mythology was written from the perspective of people living on Earth, therefore it only created Earth, or the parts of Earth those people knew about. Furthermore, that it used arms implies it needed to maneuver, reach, grab, etc. Thus, Arceus had to manually manipulate physical materials, & it needed 1,000 arms because it wouldn't be efficient at it otherwise.

Born before the universe even existed, but we don't know when it arrived, therefore we can assume it arrived after the big bang & travelled via a route that avoided all that scary cosmic radiation, cold of space, black holes, stars & supernova.

Arceus's egg had to be where there was nothing so that it wouldn't get hurt before making Earth, by the aforementioned scary space stuff & aliens like Deoxys, Staryu & Cleffa.


Something like that?

TL;DR - (Sort of)
1. Palkia can't do more than distort space, & can only to do Spatial Manipulation for transportation involving the boundaries of the universe, is weaker than any Legendary not from Sinnoh, is weakened if it's not in the gap in the spatial dimension parallel to ours, hyperventilates if it gets into a fight in a futile attempt to prevent space collapsing, & is only THOUGHT of as a deity, in fact lacks any deity-like powers at all.
2. Dialga's Time Manipulation is inapplicable in Vs Threads because it has only one kind of Power to Control Time & we don't know which kind of power to control time it is. Dialga is also too weak & forgettable to mentioned except in passing in ancient legends. Dialga is also prone to heart attacks if it tries to stop or rewind time, & in fact, only controls the flow (The motion), so it isn't even supposed to manage whether time is stopped or started, & it can only time travel to the past or future of the 1 timeline it's in. Dialga also couldn't break out of an egg before time started, making it weaker than most newborns.
3. Giratina doesn't live in another dimension, but the underside of Earth's crust under Sinnoh, having no control over any dimension. When banished for being violent, it wasn't strong enough to return, being unable to do more than stare angrily. Also, being banished to the Distortion World means it isn't seen as a threat to it, so Giratina can't destroy rocks, trees, dirt & other plants. Giratina is also one of the dumbest Pokemon, having lived in a world without common knowledge that's distorted & strange, so it likely can't properly use logic, either.
4. Arceus had to be born where there was nothing that could hurt it to be safe, was born after the big bang, & thus, could have been killed not only by it, but also contents of it; Arceus had to travel carefully to avoid being killed by slightly chilly space, gently floating rocks & spread out radiation. It only created Earth, & had to do so manually with its thousand arms, for it lacks efficiency & supernatural abilities to do so itself, which also suggests Arceus is incompetent without the aid of the Unown, it's supposed 1,000 arms. It also means it encountered no other Pokemon, because, of course, even Pokemon from space like Staryu & Cleffa interacting with it would gravely threaten poor Arceus's life.

Hopefully this isn't too horrible a posting attempt.
 
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Don't brains & the physical processes involved in thought, subconscious or otherwise, involve the use of bio-electricity? By that technicality, he might be associated with the production of joules, albeit, a very negligible amount.
 
Chara is 10-C as she is only 1/500'th Photoshop Flowey's power and Photoshop Flowey is 10-C. Flowey is countlessly weaker than Asriel who is 10-B. Frisk is 10-B as Frisk is equal in power to Asriel.
 
One Piece is Tier 8 at best since Top Tiers like Whitebeard and Oden can be killed by bullets.

And considering how much downgrade the verse had got, i wouldn't be surprise if it fully ended up at Tier 8 at best.
 
Super Goku and Vegeta are wall - building level physically because they have never exceeded that amount of damage with their punches before (some guy on reddit genuinely believes this though)
 
Swankybox, the foremost mario game scientist, said that a hundred goombas falling at terminal velocity would be enough to obliterate Luigi entirely.

Goombas were falling from a height of 475 goombas.

We can use this handy, totally legitimate chart to get their height and weight: https://super-mario-luigi-bros.fandom.com/wiki/Height_and_Weight_Guide

9 feet and really heavy respectively.

Keep in mind, 999999999998kg is apparently not really heavy, so we can assume goombas are at least 999999999999kg

999999999999kg*100=99999999999900kg

Now, considering their weight and size, air resistance should be negligible.

For distance fallen, 9ft is 2.743m. 2.7432m*475= 1303.02m

This means 99999999999900kg*1303.2m*9.8m/s/s = 1.277136e+18 joules, or mountain level, is the upper bound of Luigi’s durability.
 
Naruto
Kishimotto said guns would be too OP in naruto so 9-B Subsonic god tiers consistent with adult naruto being easily stabbed by a totally normal sword its also consistent with high level jonin needing to focus their chakra to damage rocks
One Piece
whitebeard got damaged by guns and swords so 9-B whitebeard he also couldn't react to them so Subsonic whitebeard consistent with marines using bullets even in the new world
Bleach
Yhwach got hit and almost killed by a arrow so 9-C Superhuman speed Yhwach at most everyone else downscales
Fairy Tail
everything is magic in fairy tail so nothing scales as those mountains destroyed were magic mountains a thus needed 10-C energy to destroy so 10-C Sub human speed fairy tail
 
The Sun’s never destroyed a human before either. The most we’ve seen it destroy is space dust. It’s probably just 10-C
 
Asriel is only at least mountain level possibly High mountain level?. He broke The Barrier which is only at least mountain level.

Chara is only mountain level. She broke the game which is a mountain at most!
 
Alright, hear me out. But all the 4-Bs through 2-Bs in DC are 5-B since the multiverse in DC has only 52 earths, and the earth is planet. Making a planet in DC 5-B, making the multiverse 3.09464627151 yottatones, barely 5-A. This means the 2-As through 1-As are only 5-A. Also, the writer is 9-C since he was one shot by a 9-B and the overmonitor is 10-C since it's a piece of paper.


Tl;dr

4-Bs through 2-Bs are 5-B
2-As through 1-As are 5-A
And the Writer and the overmonitor are 10-C and 9-B
 
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