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I saw a thread on a forum that says she is above The Presence but i can't remember whichh forum
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Could Lucifer Morningstar (Vertigo) Solo this verses?
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The immense mental gymnastics played in CV for downplaying Luci and Michael from them is ridiculous 
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Don't insult other sites, it's against the rulesBattler356ushiromiya said:The immense mental gymnastics played in CV for downplaying Luci and Michael from them is ridiculous
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And then there are two people arguing while tho other person brings up his/her personal issues and racial slurs in a debate of Lucifer Vs World Forger
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In CV
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I'm not insulting thay site, I'm just insulting those certain few people
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They are arguing for like 4 pages alongwith slurs and pointing out lies
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Hey one off topic question
Is the presence really omnipotent? and is Pralaya and perpetua stronger than him?
Is the presence really omnipotent? and is Pralaya and perpetua stronger than him?
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Hes defiently not Omnipotent, but he seems to be above those two.
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Have you guys seen webcam parrot's video debunking that Presence is not the strongest and is weaker than Modru and pralaya
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Hmm, I'd say he can solo everything on this list with the exceptions of Marvel, When They Cry and I guess Ergenverse but I know nothing of that verse.
Also on the topic of The Presence, you could at least argue that The Presence (the avatar) is not as strong as Pralaya, though I can't say the same about Perpetua since we haven't seen a lot of feats from her true form
Also on the topic of The Presence, you could at least argue that The Presence (the avatar) is not as strong as Pralaya, though I can't say the same about Perpetua since we haven't seen a lot of feats from her true form
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Lucy solos Ergenverse
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Only When They Cry and the Isekai A Wild Last Boss Appeared has the Transcendence necessary, neither Marvel or Ergenverse has the heiarchy needed.
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we are rehashing old debunked claims here, marvel doesn't stand a chance
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So HOTU Thanos is non-Canon and what else?
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Presence definitely isn't DCs Supreme Being.
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Marvel gets fodderized.
If verse contains fodderized characters, it doesn't mean, that overrated bulshit will stomp it )
According to logic, Monitor Sphere aka 6 dimension is a baseline 1-A.
But Lucifer residents in Sphere of Gods, which is a part of Hyper-story.
lucifer isn't 1-A bruh
If verse contains fodderized characters, it doesn't mean, that overrated bulshit will stomp it )
According to logic, Monitor Sphere aka 6 dimension is a baseline 1-A.
But Lucifer residents in Sphere of Gods, which is a part of Hyper-story.
lucifer isn't 1-A bruh
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No? Creation contains the Monitor Sphere and Lucifer is among the most powerful beings within it. Not to mention how he's superior to the Endless, who themselves encompass all reality including the Monitor Sphere, Limbo and Source Wall.
Where is this Sphere of Gods stuff coming from?
Where is this Sphere of Gods stuff coming from?
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Hell locates in Sphere of Gods.
Lucifer is not superior to Endless, Also not all Endless encompass Monitor Sphere, only Destiny does. You will ask - why? Because Dream's realm also locates in Sphere of Gods, but I don't speak about levels now.
Character may be killed even thousand times, but it doesn't cancel his achivements.
Lucifer is not superior to Endless, Also not all Endless encompass Monitor Sphere, only Destiny does. You will ask - why? Because Dream's realm also locates in Sphere of Gods, but I don't speak about levels now.
Character may be killed even thousand times, but it doesn't cancel his achivements.
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Lucifer didn't destroyed even single universe (BRUH). Superman looks more powerful than Luci
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Then show me how luci destroys at least universe
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He doesn't need to destroy a universe to be at his tier. Why're you acting like the realm he used to rule over means anything to his tier when he literally transcended creation.
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Creation of Yahweh, which in context is a simple 4-dimensional universe?
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>Creation of Yahwek contains the Monitors Sphere.
"According to logic, Monitor Sphere aka 6 dimension is a baseline 1-A."
>Also...
"Creation of Yahweh, which in context is a simple 4-dimensional universe?"
Ok buddy
"According to logic, Monitor Sphere aka 6 dimension is a baseline 1-A."
>Also...
"Creation of Yahweh, which in context is a simple 4-dimensional universe?"
Ok buddy
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No, but Lucifer is 2-C, yeah.Planck69 said:
Also monitor sphere isn't really Outerversal
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His creation contains it, regardless of if he created it or not and now you're contradicting yourself. Also that scan for Krona doesn't speak for the entire DC multiverse, it only speaks for infinite universes which isn't even a fraction of the Bleed.
It seems like you know nothing about DC.
It seems like you know nothing about DC.
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i've been watching vs debates for years now either in VSBW or outside VSBW and here's an advice
>disregard anyone who constantly says Bruh non ironically
most of them are trolls and won't listen to any evidence or statement you give them and just say bruh give me proof that character A can do x even if the series authors and context say that clearly characters A can do X but does not for other reasons like plot etc.
>disregard anyone who constantly says Bruh non ironically
most of them are trolls and won't listen to any evidence or statement you give them and just say bruh give me proof that character A can do x even if the series authors and context say that clearly characters A can do X but does not for other reasons like plot etc.
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His creation contains it, regardless of if he created it or not and now you're contradicting yourself. Also that scan for Krona doesn't speak for the entire DC multiverse, it only speaks for infinite universes which isn't even a fraction of the Bleed.
It seems like you know nothing about DC.
Lmao, did you know that Krona created anti-matter universe?
He hasn't even tried to debunk the scans on their page, only using what headcanon he can concoct to prove his point. Giving him any more ttention wouldn't do us any good.
I am not clown to try debunk this clown scans in Luci profile
It seems like you know nothing about DC.
Lmao, did you know that Krona created anti-matter universe?
He hasn't even tried to debunk the scans on their page, only using what headcanon he can concoct to prove his point. Giving him any more ttention wouldn't do us any good.
I am not clown to try debunk this clown scans in Luci profile
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Dang. Planck69 finished this thread early. I've been searching for a profile he missed, but I think his list is pretty all-inclusive. Lucifer is in that tier where pretty much everybody either stomps or gets stomped. I guess that's one of the reasons we keep track of the win/loss records for 1-A profiles and above.
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@Planck, @Emperor-
Ignore Supreme. He's been spouting nonsense about DC Cosmology being 2-C max ever since he joined the wiki and even called POTM's immaculate Monitor revision to be nothing more than headcanon even though he gave multiple scans and context that prove why DC qualifies as one of the strongest 1-A verses.
Ignore Supreme. He's been spouting nonsense about DC Cosmology being 2-C max ever since he joined the wiki and even called POTM's immaculate Monitor revision to be nothing more than headcanon even though he gave multiple scans and context that prove why DC qualifies as one of the strongest 1-A verses.
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Lucifer soloes all of them. PMMM is 2-A+ maximum, WH40K's strongest character is verrrrry slightly above baseline 1-A and Gurenn Lagann is a High 1-C verse.Botsdalino said:
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