Controversy time! Who do you think is the most overrated verse in terms of strength.

[YungManzi]

Dragon ball in general is also pretty wanked. Like Low 1-C Arale and by extension everyone else who had interactions with her.

 

[Propellus]

Dragon ball in general is also pretty wanked. Like Low 1-C Arale and by extension everyone else who had interactions with her.

And that got downgraded fast lol

 

[Greatsage13th]

And that got downgraded fast lol

A few months isn't fast

 

[Propellus]

A few months isn't fast

Isn't like it lasted that long

 

[Greatsage13th]

Isn't like it lasted that long

Longer than Beerus' low-1C EE

 

[Epiccheev]

Longer than Beerus' low-1C EE

It already got downgraded !?

 

[Greatsage13th]

It already got downgraded !?

Because the main arguement was Arale would get erased by it.

 

[Theglassman12]

It got downgraded because it was toon force shenanigans, not actual higher dimensions.

 

[Greatsage13th]

It got downgraded because it was toon force shenanigans, not actual higher dimensions.

It was downgraded because the author wasn't transcendental enough in relation to his creations.

 

[Theglassman12]

Yeah, so toon force shenanigans.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Yeah, so toon force shenanigans.

Transcendental shenanigans to be more accurate

 

[Ikelaggan]

Transcendental shenanigans to be more accurate

So he didn't make the mark in R>F criteria.

 

[Greatsage13th]

So he didn't make the mark in R>F criteria.

Yep

 

[Propellus]

Now that I think about, how come Beerus doesn't have Toon Force for himself?

 

[Greatsage13th]

Now that I think about, how come Beerus doesn't have Toon Force for himself?

He does?

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Holy FRICK how in the balls did Beerus have Low 1-C anything

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Holy FRICK how in the balls did Beerus have Low 1-C anything

Tbh Low 1-C is one of the biggest low dangling fruit in the entire DB franchise from hypertimes to Zeno's palace plus cross-scaling to Dr Slump that spams toon force/R>F and there's more in game continuity (such as the Crack in Time from Xenoverse).

Still infinitely more reasonable than tier H1-A/1-A/0 Jump Force Goku who's still decently prevalent in other Vs communities and YT.

 

[YungManzi]

He had Low 1-C for all of 2 days.

 

[Propellus]

Holy FRICK how in the balls did Beerus have Low 1-C anything

From wank

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Ok I didnt clarify, was this manga/anime beerus or xenoverse/heroes beerus?

 

[StekFence]

Anime. And games

 

[Jared1111]

Even if moving around stars was their only cosmic stuff (which isn’t the case, they have cosmic statements and decent stuff from the comics) it doesn’t really matter, it’s still applicable to their magical power and really, really consistent. Moving the sun absolutely counts as a “real feat”.

You see the problem is that, as far as I've seen, moving stars and planets seem to be way out of their magical attack power. They've never shown that level of cosmic destruction or alteration in any scenario or battle. Hell, in every fight they barely seem to be do above-building damage and at best, maybe with mountain-level shaking with all 4 alicorns. I've genuinely never seen a single instance where they use the power of the sun or moon to like, shake a planet or even do anywhere near the same visible damage. Let alone the Low Multiverse+ scaling they supposedly have, not even a on-panel narration saying they've "shaked the heavens". I'd be happy to be proven wrong but I've literally seen nothing.

The sun is stated by WoG to be the same size as its real world counterpart. The moon being potentially small doesn’t really matter tbh, moving the moon is outshined by moving stars and shit.

As far as I know, that WoG statement came from one random email written like 10 years ago, which wasn't even a definitive yes it was a "I believe so" from a person who wasn't even the main creator or even script editor of the series. She was just a random writer that only wrote 17 episodes of the series and she left halfway through.

I don't really see how that's definitive proof the Sun is actually the same size as ours, seeing how its pretty clear the Moon ain't the same size either. Seeing how her power is never shown to be anywhere near actual Star-busting power in the series, I have reason to believe she may have been wrong.

This seems like a “Superman should be downgraded because his battles usually only wreck buildings” type argument, so meh.

Again, this isn't the same because Superman and, say, Goku not only have definitive feats that show they can destroy far more than Buildings but they also have in Universe explanations of why they don't regularly dish out that power in every fight.

Celestia has shown that she isn't that strong against multiple foes and has never shown even 1% of that power in any fight. ALL her feats are anti feats, all she has is raising a Sun and Moon which we know definitively in the case of the moon, ain't that big.

Not even getting into the "Low Multiverse" stuff which you have to go through like 7 profiles before you even get to where the feat begins and its based on shoddy wording from like one special which somehow justifies like every character being 2-C based on really bad scaling.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Undertale.
I may be misremembering but they're scaling off of misinterpreted statements about destroying timelines.
Chara can only reset/destroy one, don't know how they're saying that there's multiple or that she can destroy multiple at once.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

1-A Persona is absolute dogshit.

 

[Ego]

Probably Kingdom hearts and slightly game Sonic verse

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

and slightly game Sonic verse

So how does maginary world work exactly

 

[Ego]

So how does maginary world work exactly

Idk

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

1-A Persona is absolute dogshit.

Then you’re going to hate the next revision.

 

[thetechmaster36]

Then you’re going to hate the next revision.

Tier 0 Persona let's goooooooooo

 

[Strife304]

Though let’s all play smash bros together

I main peach btw

Drop the friend code.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Then you’re going to hate the next revision.

Is Persona about to hit Tier 0?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Is Persona about to hit Tier 0?

My lawyer has advised me not to answer this question.

 

[thetechmaster36]

Bro is blackmailed

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Bro is blackmailed

Well, technically, no. In law, it would just be enacting my 5th amendment rights (“right to remain silent”), to avoid answering incriminating myself upon questioning. You would have a pretty bad lawyer if he was blackmailing you.

 

[thetechmaster36]

I was just messing with you, I obviously know what it is you're referring to, I just thought I'd spin it a bit

Though, if you're not speaking on it, it kinda sounds like High 1-A or 0 Persona to me

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I was just messing with you, I obviously know what it is you're referring to, I just thought I'd spin it a bit

Though, if you're not speaking on it, it kinda sounds like High 1-A or 0 Persona to me

You’ll see. I like to build hype (and anger).

 

[Bobsican]

Probably Kingdom hearts and slightly game Sonic verse

KH is what you get when you get a company known to do at least 2-A anime-like verses make a Disney game

 

[BrackishBrineBroth]

Then you’re going to hate the next revision.

Is this out of revenge for Dragonborn beating Ren that one time.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Is this out of revenge for Dragonborn beating Ren that one time.

I do remember that. Not quite sure how the match-up goes now.

But no, he wasn’t in mind.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

An 18 years old high schooler that just rebelled against the society reached tier 1-A, what a bollock...
Who the **** think that can makes any sense?