Controversy time! Who do you think is the most overrated verse in terms of strength.

[Vasco]

Some tiers in DC and Marvel are wonky
MCU is overrated
1-C Alien X is a stupid wank
Tier 1 servants from Nasu.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Btw dragon ball super at low 2-C is something I feel is wank
I consider infinite Zamasu’s feat to just be time manipulation, since he didn’t even cover the entirety of the universe he was in when he spread to the next one
High 3-A at best, especially since Jiren being “stronger than time” was such a big deal

 

[Shmooply]

@Shmooply Ah I see how it is, when TES gets the wank it’s fine but when Fallout gets the wank u have a problem with it?

I've got spurs, that jingle, jangle, stonewall CRTs.

 

[Sl33pP4r4ly212Guy]

Ya know if Tier 0 SMT means Tier 0 Dante I'm fine with that

Speaking of which, the fact that the entire DMC cosmology got amped up to 1-C with the already asinine hax layers they have over a single 9-D soul loading screen statement continues to boggle me today.

 

[Sl33pP4r4ly212Guy]

Also has anyone else bothered to notice that the only main problems most people in wiki and outside of it seem to have with SMT's rating is that Persona scales to it?

 

[First_Witch]

Also has anyone else bothered to notice that the only main problems most people in wiki and outside of it seem to have with SMT's rating is that Persona scales to it?

Thats false, SMT being this high is bothering people outside too. It just comes up less often because people talk about Persona way more than they do SMT

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Thats false, SMT being this high is bothering people outside too. It just comes up less often because people talk about Persona way more than they do SMT

Indeed. A lot more people believe it than disbelieve it, though. Persona, however, is not as accepted.

 

[theultimate5105]

It also comes up less because SMT is generally accepted as being a strong verse so it is less of a stretch

 

[Ikelaggan]

Thats false, SMT being this high is bothering people outside too. It just comes up less often because people talk about Persona way more than they do SMT

In the massive grand scope of outside the wiki you'd 99.99% of the time are gonna see more people spreading the baseline 1-A Jung plantonic archetypes narrative for P5 Powerscailing video number 47 on YouTube in the top ratings than anything else nuonice

 

[Theglassman12]

@Ikelaggan you sure you're not talking about any verse ever that has some vague mention of concepts being an easy 1-A buff with no context for the statement? Still remember someone unironically arguing 1-A to tier 0 mortal kombat and street fighter because of this.

 

[Ikelaggan]

@Ikelaggan you sure you're not talking about any verse ever that has some vague mention of concepts being an easy 1-A buff with no context for the statement? Still remember someone unironically arguing 1-A to tier 0 mortal kombat and street fighter because of this.

I remember some nerds trying for 1-A Medeka Box back in the day but obviously didn't go anywhere unless your some "underrated underdog" nerd that believes that type of stuff is easy 1-A with little to no context.

 

[Theglassman12]

reminds me of the medaka box plot armor wank I saw for a while

 

[Ikelaggan]

reminds me of the medaka box plot armor wank I saw for a while

Oof, then your definitely not gonna like the news of revision that's gonna give her infinite luck off of solving a uncountable number combination. No cap

 

[Theglassman12]

Fodder tier luck, Nagito Komaeda soloes her with his Ultimate luck.

 

[Epiccheev]

Oof, then your definitely not gonna like the news of revision that's gonna give her infinite luck off of solving a uncountable number combination. No cap

Strongest supernatural luck vs weakest fate hax

 

[Kirinator07]

Scp foundation i think given the amount of tier 0s

Not surprising really, they have a borderline NFL character with every power on the wiki including more and at least infinite^infinite layers of hax scaled to all its abilities and immunities, far much higher than DND's endless layers x 4 of resistances.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Not surprising really, they have a borderline NFL character with every power on the wiki including more and at least infinite^infinite layers of hax scaled to all its abilities and immunities, far much higher than DND's endless layers x 4 of resistances.

Character name?

 

[Kirinator07]

Character name?

The Administrator, heavily outdated

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The Administrator, heavily outdated

Assuming Scp somehow surpasses WOD

then he’ll likely be the second strongest character we have in the verse behind self reference engine (Character)? (Ignoring SRE characters with Smurf hax)

 

[Kirinator07]

Assuming Scp somehow surpasses WOD

then he’ll likely be the second strongest character we have in the verse behind self reference engine (Character)? (Ignoring SRE characters with Smurf hax)

In terms of hax they do usurp WOD, but the final border of tiers would mainly be the SRE

Heard that thing is beyond every formal and informal system.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

In terms of hax they do usurp WOD, but the final border of tiers would mainly be the SRE

Heard that thing is beyond every formal and informal system.

I thought Scp was still below WOD in terms of layer and tiering.


anyway if SCP CN is allowed it will be the most powerful Chinese verse on the site. Assuming it’s allowed that is

 

[DaMonkeMan]

One Piss Man.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

One Piss Man.

One pathetic man

 

[Kirinator07]

I thought Scp was still below WOD in terms of layer and tiering.

In terms of dimensional tiers yes, maybe not for long but we'll see.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

In terms of dimensional tiers yes, maybe not for long but we'll see.

How powerful is SCP-CN though?

would it be considered the most powerful Chinese verse on here?

 

[Kirinator07]

How powerful is SCP-CN though?

would it be considered the most powerful Chinese verse on here?

The Supernormal State transcends Mathematical Infinity at least

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The Supernormal State transcends Mathematical Infinity at least

Long story short how powerful would it be on this site?

 

[Kirinator07]

Long story short how powerful would it be on this site?

Tier breaking

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Tier breaking

Surpassing even SRE?!

my god if it was ever allowed. It would be another reason for me to be proud of being a Chinese person.

 

[Kirinator07]

Surpassing even SRE?!

my god if it was ever allowed. It would be another reason for me to be proud of being a Chinese person.

First off how far exactly is the SRE, then we could clear things up

for references here's the Set Theory document: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ygP8hMsigcGmROkBfZ4F9NZO7Mlx-vNyai7JO_q-_jk/mobilebasic

 

[Epiccheev]

In that case only characters able to defeat it would be Joke battles memetic tier.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

In that case only characters able to defeat it would be Joke battles memetic tier.

Nah we only need you to defeat it. Your shining hair is proof of that

 

[MrOMG]

First off how far exactly is the SRE, then we could clear things up

for references here's the Set Theory document: https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ygP8hMsigcGmROkBfZ4F9NZO7Mlx-vNyai7JO_q-_jk/mobilebasic

Technically, the whole ladder of large cardinals numbers is part of human mathematics. That is, the whole ladder of large cardinals is nothing more than a rung in another ladder of mathematics (human mathematics and alien mathematics are different).

 

[Kirinator07]

Technically, the whole ladder of large cardinals numbers is part of human mathematics. That is, the whole ladder of large cardinals is nothing more than a rung in another ladder of mathematics (human mathematics and alien mathematics are different).

Didn't I hear about the SRE being beyond formal and informal systems in a thread? Might need to clear my head.

Also in SCP, Human Mathematics exists in the Human Noosphere which is High 1-A, Alien Math is beyond that but nothing too notable, it might be upgraded to Tier 0 in the future.

 

[MrOMG]

Didn't I hear about the SRE being beyond formal and informal systems in a thread? Might need to clear my head.

Also in SCP, Human Mathematics exists in the Human Noosphere which is High 1-A, Alien Math is beyond that but nothing too notable, it might be upgraded to Tier 0 in the future.

SRE gets stronger and stronger (I keep finding new information). It turns out that the ladder of large cardinals is a small part of all SRE math.

 

[Kirinator07]

SRE gets stronger and stronger (I keep finding new information). It turns out that the ladder of large cardinals is a small part of all SRE math.

So the document only covers a tiny part of it? Keep in mind it contains the Icarus Set, which breaks down all forms of definition.

 

[MrOMG]

So the document only covers a tiny part of it? Keep in mind it contains the Icarus Set, which breaks down all forms of definition.

The idea is that all human mathematics is only a small part of alien mathematics. And although human mathematics extends to the top of the large cardinal numbers, it is only a small part of mathematics. The evolution of evolution itself never ends, and beyond all human mathematics there is a world of theories that the human mind can never reach, and only a giant intellect(GKC) can know all these theories.

そこはもしかすると、我々には最早手の届かない巨大な知性によってしか捉えられない理論の世界となっていくのかもわからない。

 

[DaMonkeMan]

SCP irks my soul.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

SCP irks my soul.

Praying on the verse's downfall.

 

[Kirinator07]

The idea is that all human mathematics is only a small part of alien mathematics. And although human mathematics extends to the top of the large cardinal numbers, it is only a small part of mathematics. The evolution of evolution itself never ends, and beyond all human mathematics there is a world of theories that the human mind can never reach, and only a giant intellect(GKC) can know all these theories.

Why does that feel similar to the Alien Noosphere?