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From what I have seen so far, I also agree with Wall level durability.
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Composite Human Upgrade to 9-B with Muay Thai
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I gonna derail, but I still insist on adding Cyborgization and Accelerated Development. How to classify this stuff?
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time to raise the lower cap of 9-B, since that tier is for superhuman characters and it must be by default above anything a real life human can do
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>Assuming Composite Human is not human level
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20 kJ should be a good floor for 9-B. We were basing ourselves on the weakest anti-material bullets, so now we can use the strongest .50 BMG rounds as a base. .50 BMG's 52 grams "Barnes" round delivers 20 kilojoules of kinetic energy to its target, and I'm pretty sure it'll take a little while before Composite Human is touching that one, too.Overlord775 said:
But... I think the durability will be a low end of 9-B even then, Overlord.
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I know it's really not that big of an issue, but i don't think listing CH stamina as Peak Human is correct, especially if we consider that the feats listed are impressive and higher than what an athlete or even different animals are capable of (due to the fact that some animals profile have listed High or Superhuman stamina).
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I've always thought of "Peak" Human as what a general/normal healthy human can do with great dedication to physical fitness, and guys like Usain Bolt/Dean Karnazes/Mike Tyson/the guy with 8x denser bones as real low-end superhuman mutants (since, you know, they probably are in the actual definition of the term). Like, if 99.999...% of humanity is physically incapable of doing what they could do even if they've devoted their entire lives to it, I'd say that's superhuman in my book.
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https://theconversation.com/the-strongest-bones-on-the-planet-hold-important-clues-60084 Not really 100% confirmed, but it states that the car accindent that involved that man with 8x denser bones was serious enough that he should have broke at least some bones or more. I mean it was kinda implied , considering the doctors were suprised to find no fracture at all.
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Well, Stamina doesn't just refers to how much time one can walk or run, but also like muscle resistence, fatigue and/or how much time can still fight for long periods of time or after being injured. I mean even normal humans can still remain conscious after being shot, stabbed or even after breaking a limb.
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Math is incorrect since the force by decceleration is only applied for a very short distance, not through the entirety of the kick's path prior to it making contact.
With the same methodology used there a simple bullet would have megajoules of energy which is not even remotely realitic.
With the same methodology used there a simple bullet would have megajoules of energy which is not even remotely realitic.
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>person survives a fall but breaks most of their bones in what is probably a miraculous combination of coincidences and energy distribution
"Alright, let's upgrade Composite Human"
Surviving something is not tandamount to a durability feat of that level when your entire body breaks as a result. We don't rate children as 9-C in durability because they can take gunshot wounds and survive on occasion, as the bullets still pass straight through them.
"Alright, let's upgrade Composite Human"
Surviving something is not tandamount to a durability feat of that level when your entire body breaks as a result. We don't rate children as 9-C in durability because they can take gunshot wounds and survive on occasion, as the bullets still pass straight through them.
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You can't simultaneously run as fast as Usain Bolt and weigh enough to break both your legs under the stress of your own weight at the same time. Also, it takes much more energy to move something of that weight; Usain Bolt couldn't run remotely as fast as his best if you strapped a several hundred kilos of weight on his back.Crzer07 said:
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CH's weight is ambiguous I think, it shouldn't offer an advantage or disadvantage.
And yeah, every time someone falls from a plane and survives is probably just due to an insane amount of luck with how the impact is distributed, and even then they've got a broken body to deal with.
And yeah, every time someone falls from a plane and survives is probably just due to an insane amount of luck with how the impact is distributed, and even then they've got a broken body to deal with.
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It can still be applied. This method is actually how punch energy for boxers is calculated. While decceleration is an issue, they take that into account when they calculate the force of strike. That's why they don't use peak force from say someone hitting a cinderblock instead though that would give higher instantaneous force.
The problem with the calc is that unlike a punch, there's no real measurement for how long a roundhouse kick's peak force is sustained. I did talk about how I used a sloppy estimate in the calc though and accepted that it might not be accepted because of it. Either way though the calc still doesn't give 9B.
It can still be applied. This method is actually how punch energy for boxers is calculated. While decceleration is an issue, they take that into account when they calculate the force of strike. That's why they don't use peak force from say someone hitting a cinderblock instead though that would give higher instantaneous force.
The problem with the calc is that unlike a punch, there's no real measurement for how long a roundhouse kick's peak force is sustained. I did talk about how I used a sloppy estimate in the calc though and accepted that it might not be accepted because of it. Either way though the calc still doesn't give 9B.
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To be fair, Ch is an amalgamation of the best feats of humanity which would not be possible in real life for one person, besides running for hours and hours is a feats that most athlets or even various animals can't do (especially not producing lactic acid at all, which is ptobably unique genetic thing), and most animal profiles in this wiki classify their stamina as superhuman. That's why i think it should be classified higher that Peak Human, and if not superhuman at least High or Very High.
