Chris Jericho (WWE) vs Mr. Satan (DBZ/DBS)

[RandomGuy2345]

Let's see how this goes.

In one corner, we got the The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla, Y2J, Chris Jericho!

In the other corner, we got the Earth's Protector, Mister Satan!

Fight is for the World Heavyweight Championship (to make it more thematic ig).

Speed is equalized.

Battle takes place in the Wrestlemania 33 Arena.

Chris Jericho: 10 (Pikaman, AcesOfSpaces3709, Quantu, Nierre, CuteAnimeNekoGirl99, Lacku, ShockingPsychic, Stillwinston, Mariogoods, DemonicDude)

Mister Satan: 1 (Nullflowerblush)

Inconclusive:

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Chris Jericho: 1.94 Megajoules

Mister Satan: 1 Megajoule

A roughly 1.94x AP advantage.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Mister Satan: 0.65 Megajoules

Isn't he 0.92 Megajoules?

 

[Pikaman]

Isn't he 0.92 Megajoules?

His kick scales to a stick of dynamite which is approximately 1 MJ, so it’s more of a ~2x AP advantage

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Isn't he 0.92 Megajoules?

I saw other threads saying he was 0.65 Megajoules.

I'll switch it out. It's now a 2.1x AP advantage.

His kick scales to a stick of dynamite which is approximately 1 MJ, so it’s more of a ~2x AP advantage

He's only that strong with one attack iirc (Dynamite Kick).

 

[Pikaman]

Think Jericho takes this, AP advantage, more versatile, can match Satan’s ability to manipulate a crowd, will make better use of the arena with his weapon mastery and steel chairs and other stuff lying about the Ring (which is pretty much inevitable). He also holds a general intelligence advantage. He holds the advantages to get the job done here so voting Jericho

 

[Pikaman]

He's only that strong with one attack iirc (Dynamite Kick).

It’s not even his signature move though, it’s fair to say his other attacks probably are on/around it’s level. Idk tho haven’t watched DBZ

it’s irrelevant anyways, a ~0.1 MJ inconsistency in AP is defo not a deciding factor here

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Think Jericho takes this, AP advantage, more versatile, can match Satan’s ability to manipulate a crowd, will make better use of the arena with his weapon mastery and steel chairs and other stuff lying about the Ring (which is pretty much inevitable). He also holds a general intelligence advantage. He holds the advantages to get the job done here so voting Jericho

1 vote for Y2J.

WWE profiles in this wiki still feel surreal for some reason.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It’s not even his signature move though, it’s fair to say his other attacks probably are on/around it’s level. Idk tho haven’t watched DBZ

it’s irrelevant anyways, a ~0.1 MJ inconsistency in AP is defo not a deciding factor here

I'll just put him at 1 MJ for now.

So a 1.94x advantage for Jericho.

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

So far I’ll learn towards Jericho FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

2 for Jericho.

 

[Quantu]

Mr Satan just made the list FRA

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Mr. Satan uses Miracle Kneel, gg no re

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Mr. Satan uses Miracle Kneel, gg no re

Is that a vote for Jericho?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Mark is considered one of the greatest martial artists of the planet, barring the Z-Fighters of course, and has demonstrated his close-quarters ability through his power, speed, and ability. From the looks of things, Mark seems to be a far swifter and nimble combatant than Chris, who is a large, bulky, and sluggish wrestler.

Furthermore, wrestling is not a very versatile fighting style, focusing on grappling, whereas Mark is a master of karate, kung fu, and other punching and kicking-based styles; and, once again, Mark has the ability advantage here, with his level of reflexes and dexterity surpassing those possessed by Chris — he does not have much going for him as a result of how largely slow and clunky wrestling is. There is less fast-pace, high-octane action and more steady, super-impacting grabs, throws, and slams. This means that if Mark sees Chris going for a grab, which he will, he is going to duck, dodge, bounce, and weave around him.

Additionally, the very marginal difference in Attack Potency means very little, partially because of just how marginal it is, and mostly because Mark has incredible endurance, surviving multiple attacks from characters far more powerful than him and being forced to endure the immense force and pressure exerted from the otherworldly protagonists and their foes on a regular basis. He evidently has a lofty tolerance for pain and damage, so if Chris manages to slam him or punch him, he will bounce back, like he did with Kid Buu.

And lastly, Chris is a wrestler. A fighting style that revolves around grappling. A fighting style that capitalizes on Lifting Strength.

Mark has Superhuman Lifting Strength, and Chris has Peak Human Lifting Strength.

Mark takes this.

 

[Nierre]

Yeah Hercule FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Mark is considered one of the greatest martial artists of the planet, barring the Z-Fighters of course, and has demonstrated his close-quarters ability through his power, speed, and ability. From the looks of things, Mark seems to be a far swifter and nimble combatant than Chris, who is a large, bulky, and sluggish wrestler.

Chris Jericho is able to fight on par with Kurt Angle, who is this skilled. Angle was also named the greatest shoot wrestler ever.

Furthermore, wrestling is not a very versatile fighting style, focusing on grappling, whereas Mark is a master of karate, kung fu, and other punching and kicking-based styles; and, once again, Mark has the ability advantage here, with his level of reflexes and dexterity surpassing those possessed by Chris — he does not have much going for him as a result of how largely slow and clunky wrestling is. There is less fast-pace, high-octane action and more steady, super-impacting grabs, throws, and slams. This means that if Mark sees Chris going for a grab, which he will, he is going to duck, dodge, bounce, and weave around him.

Jericho has dealt with people with much more swifter movements than him, such as Rey Mysterio. He knows what to do when someone has better reflexes and/or faster movements than him. Especially since this fight is taking place in Jericho's home turf, he'll know exactly what to do.

Additionally, the very marginal difference in Attack Potency means very little, partially because of just how marginal it is, and mostly because Mark has incredible endurance, surviving multiple attacks from characters far more powerful than him and being forced to endure the immense force and pressure exerted from the otherworldly protagonists and their foes on a regular basis. He evidently has a lofty tolerance for pain and damage, so if Chris manages to slam him or punch him, he will bounce back, like he did with Kid Buu.

Jericho has one of the longest lasting times in the Royal Rumble at 60:13. Jericho also took a beating from Shawn Michaels only to come back later (ignore the shitty quality). Jericho is no stranger when it comes to lasting long or enduring a lot of pain in a matchup. He can take multiple shots from stuff like steel chairs, kendo sticks, steel ladders, steel steps, and much more. Jericho can also just use weapons from under the ring to use to his advantage.

And lastly, Chris is a wrestler. A fighting style that revolves around grappling. A fighting style that capitalizes on Lifting Strength.

Mark has Superhuman Lifting Strength, and Chris has Peak Human Lifting Strength.

1. Jericho has fought many people with far superior LS than him (Big Show, Great Khali)
2. Jericho can actually grapple and put wrestlers in submission moves who have far higher LS than him (Great Khali, The Undertaker, John Cena, etc.)

Mark takes this.

Vote counted.

 

[Nierre]

Has he fought a master martial artist? Who's a master of karate, kung fu, and many other styles?

I think there's a massive skill gap between these two, and I still think the agility advantage is still at a large. Has he fought anyone similar to Hercule in fighting style or agility? If not then I really don't think Chris can take this.

 

[Pikaman]

Has he fought a master martial artist? Who's a master of karate, kung fu, and many other styles?

I think there's a massive skill gap between these two, and I still think the agility advantage is still at a large. Has he fought anyone similar to Hercule in fighting style or agility? If not then I really don't think Chris can take this.

Bro the entire God Tier of WWE are master martial artists in one way or another, he’s fought behemoths, high flying luchadores and everything inbetween, knowing several fighting styles and being agile isn’t protection enough.

 

[Nierre]

Sorry I know nothing about WWE so that's why I asked

 

[Pikaman]

Chris is stronger, better suited to utilise the environment around him, smarter and better at thinking on his feet, and has dealt with people who share Satan’s advantages in this fight, he has experience in dealing with agility disadvantages, and would have no problem dealing with someone who holds a variety of martial arts knowledge, given the vast range of fighters he’s dealt with.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Has he fought a master martial artist? Who's a master of karate, kung fu, and many other styles?

I think there's a massive skill gap between these two, and I still think the agility advantage is still at a large. Has he fought anyone similar to Hercule in fighting style or agility? If not then I really don't think Chris can take this.

Kurt Angle is able to go blow to blow with someone who has far faster movements than him, thanks to his wrestling skill. Jericho can do the exact same, as he has faced the same opponent Kurt faced in the link I showed. Yes, he has fought people with agility like Hercule.

Jericho has faced literal giants (Big Show, Great Khali), luchadores (Rey Mysterio), mythical beings (Undertaker, Kane), and much, much more.

Not to mention that Jericho has been doing this since 1990 (32 years).

 

[Nierre]

Thank you both !!

in that case i change my vote to chris

 

[Pikaman]

To summarise

Chris has AP, Versatility, Intelligence, and a Home Field Advantage

Satan has agility and (probably) skill, though Chris has dealt with being disadvantaged in the former and has the experience against a wide variety of opponents to nullify the relevance of the latter.

Chris takes this mid diff

 

[RandomGuy2345]

@Nierre

Do you know anyone that can give some input on this?

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

I’ll go for Jericho for the reasons above

 

[Lacku]

"I'm from Winnipeg you idiot" FRA

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Jericho FRA

 

[Stillwinston]

Yeah Y2J mid difficulty FRA

 

[Pikaman]

Think that’s more than enough for grace

 

[Mariogoods]

I vote to Chris FRA.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Votes have all been counted.

 

[DemonicDude]

Y2J FRA

 

[Vizer04]

Chris FRA