Characters that have taken a specific hax to the next level.(New Forum Edition!)

[Noneless21]

Why it is plot hax?

You mean for my reply? Oh i just scurrying around and find out why caliborn's fate manip is op, tho i dunno how it works, it just that it's passive or something

 

[theultimate5105]

all of it is connected with his Almighty!

which is mainly precog
hell its even worse then normal as it is fate hax which needs precog to activate first to work on opponents
The Entire Almighty is based on precog not fate hax and if you resist fate hax you would resist only part of it with resisting precog meaning you are immune to all of it

 

[M_Animefan]

which is mainly precog
hell its even worse then normal as it is fate hax which needs precog to activate first to work on opponents
The Entire Almighty is based on precog not fate hax and if you resist fate hax you would resist only part of it with resisting precog meaning you are immune to all of it

it’s not precognition but it’s fate manipulation literally says it on his profile:-/ don’t know what you smoking.

 

[theultimate5105]

it’s not precognition but it’s fate manipulation literally says it on his profile:-/ don’t know what you smoking.

What are you smoking the Almighty is literally fully based on Precog nothing other then Fate Manip is based on Fate hax

 

[M_Animefan]

What are you smoking the Almighty is literally fully based on Precog nothing other then Fate Manip is based on Fate hax

What makes you think it’s precognition? :-/ Katakuri has precognition: able to see the future and yhwach has fate manipulation: able to change the future to his means and he doesn’t just sees one futures but Infinite: it’s not precognition.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yhwach sees the possible futures and chooses which one he wants to happen

Precog + Fate manipulation, simple

 

[theultimate5105]

What makes you think it’s precognition? :-/ Katakuri has precognition: able to see the future and yhwach has fate manipulation: able to change the future to his means and he doesn’t just sees one futures but Infinite: it’s not precognition.

seeing the future isn’t fate hax

 

[M_Animefan]

seeing the future isn’t fate hax

Changing it is

 

[theultimate5105]

Changing it is

Yeah so what
basically every character with fate hax can change the future
none of his feats of fate hax are relevent in the slightest

 

[M_Animefan]

Yeah so what
basically every character with fate hax can change the future
none of his feats of fate hax are relevent in the slightest

Oh for example?

 

[theultimate5105]

Oh for example?

Changing the future is literally a basic part of fate hax. its literally in the name and I am too lazy too give you a list
Also just read a few random characters profiles from here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Fate_Users

 

[M_Animefan]

Changing the future is literally a basic part of fate hax. its literally in the name and I am too lazy too give you a list
Also just read a few random characters profiles from here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Fate_Users

Yes but none of them use it as efficiently as yhwach especially the passive power nullification and becoming immune to attacks.

 

[theultimate5105]

Yes but none of them use it as efficiently as yhwach especially the passive power nullification and becoming immune to attacks.

do you even understand how Yhwachs powers work
His Passive Powernull is based on his Info Analysis working which requires his Precog to work it has absolutely nothing to do with his Fate Hax other then falling under The Almighty

 

[Lukewoesal007]

Megami Tensei characters are the most proficient Reactive Evolution/Power Level and Accelerated Development "users" to my knowledge, being able to evolve against and eventually defeat dimensionally and existentially superior foes.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Megami Tensei characters are the most proficient Reactive Evolution/Power Level and Accelerated Development "users" to my knowledge, being able to evolve against and eventually defeat dimensionally and existentially superior foes.

That's just power. This list isn't about power

 

[Regidian]

Meltlilith should be in with her disease manip.

Melt virus, is a disease that turn being into energy and allow her to gain xp, power and capacity of her ennemies, can melt physical and intangible thing, can absorb concept/skill and allow her to control all thing that flow (like music/voice/water/wind etc), can change the size of traget into nanosize, can use it to powernull ennemy, and she can can transform those touched by the virus into her, and control them.

 

[Regidian]

Absolutely, do you remember the old Hax list for WoD powers?

I'll post the incomplete list that was on their pages before:

I mean if we go by existing magic in the verse and not by only used one guy (thon Void shiki can) all these hax you mention exist as magic and magecraft in fate.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

I mean if we go by existing magic in the verse and not by only used one guy (thon Void shiki can) all these hax you mention exist as magic and magecraft in fate.

Rassilon: **** the magic, accept the supremacy of science

 

[PsychoWarper]

The Numidium for Void Manipulation?

“The Numidium's very nature is one that embodies the sheer Nihilism and skepticism that made up the philosophy of the Dwemer that comprise its Divine Skin. As such, its Tonal Architecture, alongside the Plane(t)s and Timelines orbiting it, constantly sings World-Refusals, which refute and deny the existence of individuals and expose that they're merely illusory constructs within the Dream of the Godhead, forcing them to undergo Zero-Sum and vanish from the Dream”

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

I mean if we go by existing magic in the verse and not by only used one guy (thon Void shiki can) all these hax you mention exist as magic and magecraft in fate.

Isn't Void's usage baseline 1-A tho?

 

[Lou_change]

No magic is in the rules but I think warhammer fantasy would win.

 

[Regidian]

Isn't Void's usage baseline 1-A tho?

Yeah but we don't talk about who stronger but versality here no?

 

[Udlmaster]

I mean if we go by existing magic in the verse and not by only used one guy (thon Void shiki can) all these hax you mention exist as magic and magecraft in fate.

I'm pretty sure Fate doesn't have the list of Magic that Mages have. I haven't even used my trump card:

Meme Manipulation.

You never stood a chance.

 

[Regidian]

I'm pretty sure Fate doesn't have the list of Magic that Mages have. I haven't even used my trump card:

Meme Manipulation.

You never stood a chance.

The list that was showed at least every of them exist in fate

For the meme we have fate riyo

 

[Udlmaster]

The list that was showed at least every of them exist in fate

For the meme we have fate riyo

I doubt every single ability on the Mage's power list exists in Fate.

Like which characters have Meta-Plot manipulation?

Which characters have Vibration manipulation, which ones have Anti-Matter manipulation, which ones have Higher Dimensional manipulation, which ones have Vector Manipulation.

And do they all have these as a single character? Not spread out over multiple with different sources of their powers, I mean the same entity with the same source.

 

[Regidian]

I doubt every single ability on the Mage's power list exists in Fate.

Like which characters have Meta-Plot manipulation?

Which characters have Vibration manipulation, which ones have Anti-Matter manipulation, which ones have Higher Dimensional manipulation, which ones have Vector Manipulation.

And do they all have these as a single character? Not spread out over multiple with different sources of their powers, I mean the same entity with the same source.

Goetia have plot manipulation.

BB have higher D manipulation and vector manipulation and pratically everyone than manipulate INS

Miyu have some form of vibration manipulation. Meltlilith should be able too as she can control everything that flow.

Alchemist can create and use anti matter.

And void shiki can use every power in the verse so yeah

 

[Udlmaster]

Goetia have plot manipulation.

BB have higher D manipulation and vector manipulation and pratically everyone than manipulate INS

Miyu have some form of vibration manipulation. Meltlilith should be able too as she can control everything that flow.

Alchemist can create and use anti matter.

And void shiki can use every power in the verse so yeah

Ryougi Shiki

Shiki Ryougi (両儀式, Ryōgi Shiki) is the protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai and the bearer of the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, allowing her to see death and bring it upon anything "alive" for as long as she can run her knife across its Lines of Death. Hailing from a family of demon hunters, she...

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She has less powers than a level 2 Mage.

Also, I didn't say plot, I meant Meta-Plot, Mages can manipulate the Hypernarrative beyond the regular narrative, it's a whole thing.

And Miyu Edelfelt doesn't have vibration manip.

And what can Alchemist do with Anti-Matter? Can they transmute people into it? Make swords out of it?

BB doesn't have vector manip. It's not on her profile. Either of them.

 

[Regidian]

Ryougi Shiki

Shiki Ryougi (両儀式, Ryōgi Shiki) is the protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai and the bearer of the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, allowing her to see death and bring it upon anything "alive" for as long as she can run her knife across its Lines of Death. Hailing from a family of demon hunters, she...

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She has less powers than a level 2 Mage.

"including all powers from the Nasuverse" it's good to read thing. She don't have all the power listed since the people that was supposed to make it is occuped

 

[Udlmaster]

"including all powers from the Nasuverse" it's good to read thing.

I was editing my post.

 

[Regidian]

Ryougi Shiki

Shiki Ryougi (両儀式, Ryōgi Shiki) is the protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai and the bearer of the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, allowing her to see death and bring it upon anything "alive" for as long as she can run her knife across its Lines of Death. Hailing from a family of demon hunters, she...

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She has less powers than a level 2 Mage.

Also, I didn't say plot, I meant Meta-Plot, Mages can manipulate the Hypernarrative beyond the regular narrative, it's a whole thing.

And Miyu Edelfelt doesn't have vibration manip.

And what can Alchemist do with Anti-Matter? Can they transmute people into it? Make swords out of it?

BB doesn't have vector manip. It's not on her profile. Either of them.

It's a thing praticaly exclusive to your verse so i mean why she would have this ? Even here it's just listed as plot manip. It's like i ask if your verse have authority manipulation

Higher-Dimensional Manipulation (Merged with and can control the Mooncell, which can create 8 dimensional spaces),

For vector it was surely forgotten to be add as she manipulate INS and otherwise kingprotea have it.

Miyu have it just not listed on profile because not updated.

Transmut people into anti-matter? No and no doesn't make sword of it alchemist we don't know even much about alchemist lol.

And still how she have less power than a level 2 lol

 

[Regidian]

Anyways it's not really the purpose of the thread we can talk about it in ither post or in pv

 

[Udlmaster]

And still how she have less power than a level 2 lol

So far it's hard to falsify then, and especially hard to find the pages since they're split up from 1 main page into a dozen other smaller main pages that then go to the pages, but sometimes they're not even the correct one, my lord!

As for level 2, Level 2 Mages can do a lot.

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception, Clairvoyance (Mages are capable of enhancing their senses to see spirits and invisible things, as well as see in higher dimensions. Mages can sense danger as it happens and Master Clairvoyants are capable of using any of their five senses on anything in the world.), Vehicular Mastery, Weapon Mastery (Mages can master military weaponry), Magic, Hacking (Mages can master the art of setting up security and undoing it through hacking), Reactive Evolution (Able to passively manipulate fate to adapt to any situation), Transformation, Fate Manipulation (Able to see all possible futures and take steps to fulfill that future), Plot Manipulation (Any supernatural being in the verse is capable of interacting with the hyper-narrative. Mages can manipulate the Natures of them and others, which are archetypes connected to the characters. Mages can manipulate Jungian archetypes. Marauder Mages can become the Storyteller. ), Perception Manipulation, Power Nullification (Stated to Passively Negate Supernatural effect based on if they choose to believe something or not, as well as able to alter concepts, magic, people's existence, the laws of physics and reality itself, able to penetrate all layers of existence, able to remove templates from beings, this includes the idea of ghosts being incorporeal or the Vampire's need for Blood), Regeneration (Low), Holy Manipulation (Able to draw Power from God), Precognition, Postcognition, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Mind Manipulation (Able to Open their mind to the Universe, becoming one and Manipulating the Psychic Universe), Summoning (Able to Summon Familiars), Memory Manipulation (Able to manipulate Memories]), Water Manipulation (Able to manipulate Liquids) Technology Manipulation (Able to draw power from the Exarch's Machines, additionally, Mages can create Hyper-advanced machinery), Light Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Air Manipulation, Momentum Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation (Able to Manipulate Light, Fire, Wind, Momentum and Gravity), Fate Manipulation/Time Manipulation (Able to see the many futures in any situation and cause that event to occur.), Invisibility (Can make things invisible, including themselves), Dimensional Travel, Non-Physical Interaction (Able to interact with Concepts and Spirits, Spirits are actually Mathematical formula, philosophies, concepts, ideas, Psychological posturing.), Petrification, Transmutation (Able to Transmute beings and Petrify things), Biological Manipulation, Healing (Able to alter Simple life forms and heal themselves, these are things such as Animals and minor creatures), Electricity Manipulation (Able to Manipulate Electricity and electrical currents), Regeneration (High-Godly), Immortality (Type 3) (Able to reinforce their body against deadly attacks), Spatial Manipulation (Able to ignore physical obstacles, extend space or even ban space from being accessible), Instinct Manipulation (Able to manipulate instincts causing people to violently shake, twitch and or make them feel as if someone is behind them), Probability Manipulation (Can Manipulate Probability with it being a Major aspect of the Magical school of Entropy), Sound Manipulation (Can Manipulate and Control Frequency and sound, increasing volume or completely muffling it), Resistance to all previously stated abilities.

And this list is also out-dated too, Here's an example of a little more up to date.

 

[Regidian]

So far it's hard to falsify then, and especially hard to find the pages since they're split up from 1 main page into a dozen other smaller main pages that then go to the pages, but sometimes they're not even the correct one, my lord!

As for level 2, Level 2 Mages can do a lot.


And this list is also out-dated too, Here's an example of a little more up to date.

at least it have many explanation, anyways if i get the time to go for i will make the page for magic/magecraft in nasuverse and show it to you

 

[Lou_change]

What do you mean by mage

 

[Udlmaster]

What do you mean by mage

Mage from World of Darkness.

 

[Lou_change]

Ah but would it be better then this Aethyr Manipulation

 

[Udlmaster]

Ah but would it be better then this Aethyr Manipulation

Yes. I'll copy that incomplete list of spells Mages have:

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception, Clairvoyance (Mages are capable of enhancing their senses to see spirits and invisible things, as well as see in higher dimensions. Mages can sense danger as it happens. Master Clairvoyants are capable of using any of their five senses on anything in the world.), Weapon Mastery (Mages can master military weaponry.), Hacking (Mages can master the art of setting up security and undoing it through hacking.), Fate Manipulation (With Fate Magic), Time Manipulation (With Time Magic), Spatial Manipulation (With Space Magic), Plot Manipulation (Any supernatural being in the verse is capable of interacting with the hyper-narrative. Mages can manipulate the Natures of them and others, which are archetypes connected to the characters. Mages can manipulate Jungian archetypes. Marauder Mages can become the Storyteller.), Time Travel (Time Mages can travel forward or backward through time.), Ice Manipulation, Sand Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Magnetism Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Air Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Light Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation, Heat Manipulation, Sound Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Radiation Manipulation, (Forces Mages can manipulate, direct, transmute, enhance, or banish the effects of the fundamental energetic patterns of Creation for the kinetic elements, fire, air, momentum, gravity, radiation, light, sound, radio waves, and particle-wave duality.), Matter Manipulation (With Matter Magic), Antimatter Manipulation (Mages can create and manipulate antimatter, as well as fight with anti-Etheric particles in the form of a death ray.), Willpower Manipulation (Marauder Mages can absorb willpower from others.), Vibration Manipulation (Can cause Dimensional Vibrations and Quantum Vibrations), Quantum Manipulation (Created the Platonic Concept of Quantum Theory), Probability Manipulation (With Entropy Magic), Magic, Transmutation, Reality Warping, Void Manipulation, Regeneration (Mid-Godly, survived the destruction of Paradise), Shapeshifting, Precognition, Invisibility, Mind Manipulation (With Mind Magic), Teleportation (Quantum Teleportation), Attack Reflection, Dimensional Travel, Weather Manipulation (Able to Manipulate the Weather), Non-Physical Interaction (Constantly shown to interact with Metaphysical items and Platonic concepts), Absorption, Acausality (Type 1, 4 [Exists completely outside of Time]), Transduality (Can create a location immune to the ravages of Duality, as well as exist in Anima Mundi a non-dual location, scales to Lilith, the Embodiment of Yang), Immortality (Types 1, 2, 3, 5), Causality Manipulation, Curse Manipulation (Able to curse beings), Dream Manipulation (Able to manipulate the Maya Dream Realm), Earth Manipulation, True Flight, Plasma Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Petrification (Hyperpetrification), Empathic Manipulation, Empowerment, Darkness Manipulation, Density Manipulation (Able to manipulate Density), Vector Manipulation (Able to Manipulate Vectors), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2), Creation, Death Manipulation (With Death Magic), Poison Manipulation, Text Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Data Manipulation (Able to manipulate the Data and Information of Reality), Acid Manipulation, Morality Manipulation (Able to Manipulate the Morality of beings), Age Manipulation (With Time Magic), Energy Projection, Life Manipulation (With Life Magic), Possession (With Death Magic), Plant Manipulation (Able to cause Plants to grow), Holy Manipulation (Able to draw Power from God), Technological Manipulation (Can create Platonic concepts of Machines), Ectoplasm Manipulation (With Spirit Magic), Animal Manipulation (Able to control entire species), Magma Manipulation, Fusionism, Higher-Dimensional Manipulation (Able to mutilate Dimensional Axis, able to convert 3-D beings into 2-D beings, able to creatre Landscapes that defy Dimensional physics), Illusion Creation, Sleep Manipulation, Portal Creation, Power Bestowal, Reactive Evolution (Able to passively manipulate fate to adapt to any situation), Astral Projection, Statistics Amplification, Statistics Reduction, Status Effect Inducement, Stealth Mastery, Vehicular Mastery, Non-Corporeal, Perception Manipulation, Size Manipulation, Resurrection, Necromancy, One Hit Kill, Madness Manipulation (Turns those around them insane), Memory Manipulation , Law Manipulation (Scales to Early Lilith, who's Law's are Anti-Laws), Soul Manipulation, Physics Manipulation, Healing, Summoning, BFR, Sealing (Can turn beings into 2-D beings), Biological Manipulation (With Life Magic), Regeneration and Immortality Negation (Mid-Godly and Types 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6), Resistances to Time Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Power Nullification (Stated to Passively Negate Supernatural effect based on if they choose to believe something or not, as well as able to alter concepts, magic itself, people's existence, the laws of physics andreality itself, able to penetrate all layers of existence which is stated to have at least 8 dimensions, able to remove templates from beings, this includes the idea of ghosts being incorporeal or the Vampire's need for Blood ), Curse Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, Morality Manipulation, Sealing, Blood Manipulation, Chaos Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Probability Manipulation and all their other abilities | All previous abilities increased to a immense amount Higher Dimensional Manipulation, Nigh-Omniscience, Forcefield Creation, Immortality (Types 4, 5, 7, and 8), Disease Manipulation (Able to create Viruses and Diseases), Mathematics Manipulation, Law Manipulation (Stated to be able to create and change the Laws of Reality), Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation, Absorption, all previously stated abilities.

 

[DaimaouAshura]

Rei Ogami is more versatile for fire manipulation as he can use simple fire, create illusions, stop regeneration, erase people from existence, create ice, destroy souls, can sever matter, place curses, control life and death, can burn powers away and null them, create soundwaves and explosions, shape it into weapons, generate wind - all these with fire.

I call this my reminder to read Code:Breaker.

 

[Lou_change]

Yes. I'll copy that incomplete list of spells Mages have:

The page you saw is also incomplete and their resistances are from their magic?

 

[BlastX]

Since I haven't seen Fear Manip in the list then I nominate Perfect Chaos from STC for it, his base form fear manipulation is passive and without him even trying, the closer you get to him the worse it gets to the point you practically collapse in the ground unable to move a muscle for the sheer fear...and his Perfect form is far above that.

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