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Chara vs Asriel Dreemurr(Votes Completed, this can be added).

Infernacio said:
Kyleb79 said:
Superweeb2987 said:
Kyleb79 said:
The problem is Chara is omnipresence and Asriel has the shorter range.
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Asriel might have Multiversal range but only shown to destroy one timeline at once.
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Omnipresence really doesn't mean much when your opponent is immeasurable. And Asriel has longer range. Chara's range comes from being able to destroy the entire multiverse. Asriel can do the exact same thing. Just because he hasn't done it doesn't before doesn't mean he can't. Goku hasn't destroyed a planet, but that doesn't mean he can't.
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Chara exits in all timelines, Asriel exits in one timeline at once(though can travel to other ones) Also, Omega Flowey and Asriel for some reason have no resistance to reset.
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Doesn't Asriel exist outside of the timeline? Pretty sure reseting wouldn't affect him considering that in his fight he planed to reset.
Frisk literally can reset Asriel.
 
The Wright Way said:
That's not what happened. Frisk and The Player did the pacifist run as normal and Chara just swipes it from them at the end.
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And they can do all of that, even with more ease. Asriel can't kill them (and wouldn't be trying his hardest to) and they can easily coinvince every soul in him to not fight, which affects him regardless.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
What..? What is this thread..?
Did you forget what happens in-canon? Post-genocide pacifist run is a thing.


Chara, who Asriel still believed frisk is during the fight, even the second time, can easily simply talk the souls inside him into becoming friends and then proceed to kill asriel after he lets his "friends" go.
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Frisk is possed by Chara in this fight.
 
And? Why do you think chara is a mindless beserk? They observe what you do, and they do know how strong asriel is and their weaknesess. They were litirally there when frisk defeated him.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
And? Why do you think chara is a mindless beserk? They observe what you do, and they do know how strong asriel is and their weaknesess. They were litirally there when frisk defeated him.
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I don't think Chara a mindless beserk.
 
I can wait. This should just stop, as this argument's getting nuts over something we've already specified.
 
Christian Higdon said:
I can wait. This should just stop, as this argument's getting nuts over something we've already specified.
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Quote it then please. Qoute where it was rebuttled that Chara can do exactly what frisk did.
 
And..? If all of the votes ignore something the character can do the verdict isn't valid. That's the point.


It doesn't matter whenever or not you reached a verdict, if you don't have a reasonable way for Chara to not be able to win the way I said your votes are null.
 
No, I am not. If you seriously don't have a reason, then we are left with the fact that Chara can defeat Asriel, and Asriel can't stomp that.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
No, I am not. If you seriously don't have a reason, then we are left with the fact that Chara can defeat Asriel, and Asriel can't stomp that.
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What was the reason Chara would win?
 
She does what frisk did.

Because she was there when that happened and knows that asriel is stronger than they are.
 
You mean talk Asriel out of that?

You do know

this same person

brutally murdered Asriel at the end of the Genocide Run
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
You mean talk Asriel out of that?
You do know

this same person

brutally murdered Asriel at the end of the Genocide Run
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And you know that Frisk is still able to talk asriel down right, you know, the person they are possesing? And that they can talk the souls inside him down regardless, which would still make him feel the same way, yeah?
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Edwardtruong2006 said:
You mean talk Asriel out of that?
You do know

this same person

brutally murdered Asriel at the end of the Genocide Run
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And you know that Frisk is still able to talk asriel down right, you know, the person they are possesing? And that they can talk the souls inside him down regardless, which would still make him feel the same way, yeah?
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What would happen if Chara didn't have possession though still was at max?
 
Pretty sure the monsters could still be convinced to like her. Torial and Asgore would be easy enough, she could just tell that she's asgore's son to undyne, easily play on alphys' emotions and just making the teo brothers happy like in-canon (Sans would have no way to reconize them directly, and one monster among the thousands likely wouldn't change much).
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Pretty sure the monsters could still be convinced to like her. Torial and Asgore would be easy enough, she could just tell that she's asgore's son to undyne, easily play on alphys' emotions and just making the teo brothers happy like in-canon (Sans would have no way to reconize them directly, and one monster among the thousands likely wouldn't change much).
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How about bloodlust.
 
... Asriels feelings wouldn't matter when it's the souls inside hip that are being convinced, which esentially forces him to feel what they do.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Pretty sure the monsters could still be convinced to like her. Torial and Asgore would be easy enough, she could just tell that she's asgore's son to undyne, easily play on alphys' emotions and just making the teo brothers happy like in-canon (Sans would have no way to reconize them directly, and one monster among the thousands likely wouldn't change much).
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Undyne wouldn't buy that, and Sans is WAY smarter than you're giving him credit for. He wouldn't buy it. And yeah, one monster does make a difference. You can't win the fight unless you talk ALL of them out of fighting. Besides, that's way out of character for Chara.
 
And why exactly?

Omega Flowey is still 2-B and Asriel is infinitely higher stronger than him.

2-B was 1001 or any finite number of 4th dimensional universes.

2-A is Infinite 4th dimensional universes(along a 5th dimensional axis though I'm not sure)
 
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