Cat Blanc vs Infinity Ultron

[Ss3micah]

The only times the his character was serious.

Your right. And im sure if Blanc saw this robot just come up outta nowhere his mood given his character would be more confused than serious. And even if not confused he's definately not serious from the get go

And definately not serious enough to start with AoE cataclysm especially since thw only times he ever did so was either unintentional (first AoE) or out of completely giving up his reason to live cause he thinks the girl he loves doesnt love him anymore (second AoE)

So he doesn’t wants to kill Ultron?

Nah, he would
What im saying is both his reasons for AoE cataclysm were very situational and under a irrational state of mind

Given thats its not solid stone to say AoE cataclysm is something he would casually resort to especially given the reasons under which he used AoE cataclysm

Because they are his only moves that involve any emotional restrain from his part.

And I mean, if you go by this standard, this pretty much can be said by any wincon your giving to Ultron, specially when his telekinesis was employed against somebody’s who had his Soul Stone.

My point was that ultron can use his powers freely
They are not situational and he likes flexing and letting loose

Cat has never been shown to like letting loose and going all out and the two times he does was for very situational reasons
His first AoE was unintentional and second was when he was hearbroken and gave up all hope and both were under irrational mind sets

Ultron can resort to OP hax in any state of mind and has numerous feats of using hax against numerous opponents for every occasion
Like first turn AP shockwave he used against Dr Strange

Cat blanc has only ever faced ladybug so how he would operate against other characters cant go without speculation

Binding is an application of telekinesis, not an standard.

True that
But Ultron's TK does typically bind characters as they are unable to move when bounded

He has never done this combo, so I don’t know where this likehood comes.

Okay fair
He has other TK follow up combos though cause surely if ultron binds him he's not gonna just let him go to walk free

His hand doesn’t appears in a change of frames, his hand appears once he raises it.

We never see him raising his hand though
It just comes into frame after panning from his mug shot
And obviously you wont see his hands when camera is focused on his face

The moment we do see his body he's already absorbing

 

[DivineAura44]

So what exactly is win cons for both sides?

 

[Ss3micah]

So what exactly is win cons for both sides?

Umm well, to put it very short
For Ultron, it's ALMOST literally doing anything and not missing as Ultron has overwhelming AP advantage and Cat's Durability is too drastically low to survive anything

Ultron has: these as attack options
Telekinesis
Energy beams easily capable of nuking realms
Thought based Galaxy Nuke
AoE shockwaves and environment destruction
Simply appearing which can wipe all trace of life off an entire planet

For Cat, it's using cataclysms and hoping he hits Ultron as evidently Ultron doesn't resist Deconstruction and Corrosion

That's the simplest rundown anyways

 

[Coolboy6]

Completely forgot about this match
Bump

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

It's a fun debate to watch, ngl

 

[DivineAura44]

I'm basically trying to understand how Blanc wins. OK maybe Ultron doesn't kill immediately. And then what? How does Blanc capitalize? Even if Ultron doesn't kill immediately, after he sees a big cataclysm he will, no? And let's say he doesn't. Even if he won't let himself get killed. Even if Ultron doesn't kill, I don't see how he dies.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I'm basically trying to understand how Blanc wins. OK maybe Ultron doesn't kill immediately. And then what? How does Blanc capitalize? Even if Ultron doesn't kill immediately, after he sees a big cataclysm he will, no? And let's say he doesn't. Even if he won't let himself get killed. Even if Ultron doesn't kill, I don't see how he dies.

Mega Cataclysm will deconstruct Ultron so he'd die. And since he probably won't use the galactic sized attack right away as people argued in this thread, Ultron would think it's no different than regular energy blasts and would not register Cat as a threat

 

[DivineAura44]

Mega Cataclysm will deconstruct Ultron so he'd die. And since he probably won't use the galactic sized attack right away as people argued in this thread, Ultron would think it's no different than regular energy blasts and would not register Cat as a threat

Wouldn't the things around him being deconstructed tip him off?

 

[DivineAura44]

Normal blasts don't do that.

 

[StekFence]

Normal blasts don't do that.

I don’t think he’d throw one though another object, if ultron isn’t that far from him. I mean, he might for stealth reasons, but it’s not like ultron is in a house, not being aware of blancs position.

 

[DivineAura44]

Wouldn't the floor get destroyed by the cataclysm?

 

[StekFence]

Idk. i just read the profiles

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wouldn't the floor get destroyed by the cataclysm?

No because Ultron will probably be above him. Ultron will not opt to hide from Cat Blanc either since that isn't really something he'd do at first

 

[DivineAura44]

No because Ultron will probably be above him. Ultron will not opt to hide from Cat Blanc either since that isn't really something he'd do at first

Why are we assuming this?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Why are we assuming this?

Because Ultron normally flies while Cat don't? Seems pretty obvious

 

[Lord_JJJ]

From what I read, I will give my vote for Ultron here

 

[Coolboy6]

counted

 

[Tarang123]

I’m kinda confused. Unless Cat’s cataclysm power has some insane multiversal range, I don’t see ultron losing. Ultron, once he realizes how dangerous this ability of Blanc’s is, could just stop time or even loop it. There are a ridiculous number of ways for ultron to stomp and only one for Cat Blanc to win. I consider it a win for ultron

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I’m kinda confused. Unless Cat’s cataclysm power has some insane multiversal range, I don’t see ultron losing. Ultron, once he realizes how dangerous this ability of Blanc’s is, could just stop time or even loop it. There are a ridiculous number of ways for ultron to stomp and only one for Cat Blanc to win. I consider it a win for ultron

Ultron won't know that Cat is dangerous until he'd be hit by the attack, since he would see it as no different than any other energy blast

 

[Tarang123]

Ultron won't know that Cat is dangerous until he'd be hit by the attack, since he would see it as no different than any other energy blast

No? Again, you'd have to assume that it's so fast that Ultron has literally no time to just leave the area, when that just isn't true at all. And Ultron is arrogant, not a moron. He'd notice what was happening and do something about it before the blast could hit him, assuming that he can't just use a force field or something.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

No? Again, you'd have to assume that it's so fast that Ultron has literally no time to just leave the area, when that just isn't true at all. And Ultron is arrogant, not a moron. He'd notice what was happening and do something about it before the blast could hit him, assuming that he can't just use a force field or something.

The attack isn't going to realistically destroy anything, unless it happens to collide with something in the air.

That's because Ultron normally flies, while Cat Blanc can't fly (without space powerup, which he won't use at first), so he'll aim to the sky upwards

 

[Tarang123]

The attack isn't going to realistically destroy anything, unless it happens to collide with something in the air.

That's because Ultron normally flies, while Cat Blanc can't fly (without space powerup, which he won't use at first), so he'll aim to the sky upwards

Other thing I want to point out is what is stopping ultron from just stopping time?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Other thing I want to point out is what is stopping ultron from just stopping time?

Because he normally don't start with that in characters against a random person? Even when the Avengers attacked him he didn't do it so why would he do it here let alone start with it?

 

[Tarang123]

Because he normally don't start with that in characters against a random person? Even when the Avengers attacked him he didn't do it so why would he do it here let alone start with it?

With the avengers, he already knew they were fodders to him, and was only unaware of strange

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

With the avengers, he already knew they were fodders to him, and was only unaware of strange

And what would make Cat any different than any other heroes he'd see himself as above them? And if he didn't used that on Strange despite not being aware of him too, then why would he use it on Cat? Especially since Cat Blanc will just seem like yet another hero Ultron is superior to

 

[Tarang123]

And what would make Cat any different than any other heroes he'd see himself as above them? And if he didn't used that on Strange despite not being aware of him too, then why would he use it on Cat? Especially since Cat Blanc will just seem like yet another hero Ultron is superior to

That’s an interesting thought, but how exactly does this ability of Cat Blanc work?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

That’s an interesting thought, but how exactly does this ability of Cat Blanc work?

If it touches you, you get Cataclysm-ed into dust and destroyed

 

[Tarang123]

If it touches you, you get Cataclysm-ed into dust and destroyed

So deconstruction? I’m still confused why ultron wouldn’t just absorb the attack

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Ultron FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So deconstruction? I’m still confused why ultron wouldn’t just absorb the attack

Because if he'd extend his hand to absorb the attack, the hand is going to get destroyed by Cat's attack

 

[Tarang123]

Because if he'd extend his hand to absorb the attack, the hand is going to get destroyed by Cat's attack

Is it instantaneous? Cause ultron also has regeneration if I remember correctly

 

[Rez]

Ultron FRA

And with that grace period begins

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Is it instantaneous? Cause ultron also has regeneration if I remember correctly

He only got Low-Mid regen. You're gonna need at least Mid-High to regenerate from being turned into dust

 

[Tarang123]

He only got Low-Mid regen. You're gonna need at least Mid-High to regenerate from being turned into dust

And again, is it instantaneous? Cause if it isn’t, I don’t see any reason why he can’t just kill Blanc before he fully disintegrates

 

[Ss3micah]

OMG
This again lolol
Why is this even a debate anymore
First turn IC telekinesis literally negates Cats options and Cat has no counter for telekinesis

 

[Rez]

Oh I forgot to vote Ultron fra then

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[Tarang123]

Also, assuming that ultron wants to wipe cat out, he might just kill him immediately with an energy blast or something

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

And again, is it instantaneous? Cause if it isn’t, I don’t see any reason why he can’t just kill Blanc before he fully disintegrates

Pretty much yes. If it touches him, he dies