• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Caped Baldy vs The Strongest Hokage (0/12/0) GRACE

WrongIdea21

He/Him
4,089
2,153
Last edited:
Voting Naruto for massive versatility and skill advantage, sage more gives him Dura neg and he has analytical prediction with sage and kurama mode making it even more easier to dodge Saitama's attacks.

basically just read Naruto's profile and compare it to Saitama's
 
I'll go with Naruto.

Saitama does have the AP advantage (at least 431 exatons vs 398.5 exatons), but that's only 1.08 times, but Naruto has much better abilities (Limited Durability Negation with rasen-shuriken, the ability to make hundreds of clones all comparable to him in stats, Low-Mid regeneration which will allow him to regenerate from anything Saitama can do due to how small the AP advantage Saitama has over Naruto is)

Saitama has a big LS advantage (16x) but I think Naruto can overcome that with hundreds of shadow clones at once (not really sure about that though)
By 7.5x at the bare minimum since he only ever one-shots.
One-shotting isn't used for tiers, if it was this would be a stomp, it's only used for vs threads
  • "This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse."
 
One-shotting isn't used for tiers, if it was this would be a stomp, it's only used for vs threads
  • "This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse."
Ah didn't know that. Sorry.
 
I'll go with Naruto.

Saitama does have the AP advantage (at least 431 exatons vs 398.5 exatons), but that's only 1.08 times, but Naruto has much better abilities (Limited Durability Negation with rasen-shuriken, the ability to make hundreds of clones all comparable to him in stats, Low-Mid regeneration which will allow him to regenerate from anything Saitama can do due to how small the AP advantage Saitama has over Naruto is)

Saitama has a big LS advantage (16x) but I think Naruto can overcome that with hundreds of shadow clones at once (not really sure about that though)

One-shotting isn't used for tiers, if it was this would be a stomp, it's only used for vs threads
  • "This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse."
Vote counted
 
Voting Naruto for massive versatility and skill advantage, sage more gives him Dura neg and he has analytical prediction with sage and kurama mode making it even more easier to dodge Saitama's attacks.

basically just read Naruto's profile and compare it to Saitama's
Vote Counted
 
One-shotting isn't used for tiers, if it was this would be a stomp, it's only used for vs threads
  • "This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse."
I'm sorry but, is this... not a versus thread???
 
Basically, as the AP difference is only 1.08x, Saitama will not be able to one-shot, and whereas Naruto clones can further shorten the difference and Naruto's Durability Negation... stomp.
 
He doesn't just one-shot them, he one-shots effortlessly while holding back.
Yes, but that doesn't mean his AP will be that high, as of right now his AP is baseline Low 5-B, just 431 exatons, hand to hand the fight won't have that much advantage in either side except for LS where Saitama is 16x higher than Naruto
 
Yes, but that doesn't mean his AP will be that high, as of right now his AP is baseline Low 5-B, just 431 exatons, hand to hand the fight won't have that much advantage in either side except for LS where Saitama is 16x higher than Naruto
You literally quoted the thing which says 7.5x can be used for versus threads, the AP difference is definitely not small.
 
You literally quoted the thing which says 7.5x can be used for versus threads, the AP difference is definitely not small.
7.5x can be used for vs threads, but that is if Saitama's AP was listed as 7.5 times higher than Naruto's AP, what I quoted is to prove that his AP isn't 7.5x higher than the durability of the characters he one shots
 
One-shotting isn't used for tiers, if it was this would be a stomp, it's only used for vs threads
  • "This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse."
This is about giving tiers for characters. We absolutely do consider if a character oneshots another for AP.

If Saitama oneshots beings who are 1,08 times stronger than Naruto, why wouldn't he oneshot Naruto?
 
Naruto Scales massively above a one shot as well
Naruto>=Fused Momoshiki=Base Momoshiki+Kinshiki>>Them Individually>>BSM the last Naruto>>>>(One shot)>Toneri>>Toneri passively moving the moon
Also isn't Saitama upscaling from moon level+ because that is what Orochi is
 
Basically, Saitama is far higher then his statistics... but to an unknown extent. He may one-shot Naruto, he may not. We can't know for sure.
 
Basically, Saitama is far higher then his statistics... but to an unknown extent. He may one-shot Naruto, he may not. We can't know for sure.
If he one-shots someone who is even just a bit stronger than Naruto, he one-shots Naruto as well, if the question is only about AP v.s. Dura.

We may not know how strong Saitama really is, but we know he is strong enough to one-shot people who are a bit stronger than Naruto. Thus, by logic, he one-shots Naruto as well, barring any other power or circumstance. The fact that Saitama does these one-shots with ease and while holding back only further proves the point here.
 
Back
Top