Cain Gemini has the ability to ignore the defense of a Cloth!

[DrunkHC]

Abel, Cain's weaker "brother" is able to undo the cosmic energy from Suikyo's ice air attack, Kyoto has the power to pierce gold cloth Taurus. Cain is able to hit Ikki's body by ripping his Fenix V3 cloth with occasional cosmic energy attacks, Cain is able to destroy Ikki's cosmic vital points with his Galaxian Explosion technique as well as retrieve them with his other technique KishikaiseiStar of the resurrection), the Saint of Gemini was able to destroy in pieces the body of Odysseus with his Galatica Explosion in maximum power, completely ignoring the defense of Serpentario's gold cloth.

It is quite obvious that the capacity for atomic destruction and manipulation of the cosmos of the Cain gemini attacks are on another level in relation to the other golden saints, to the point of the Gemini of Nd being able to tear a V3 Fenix with occasional attacks to destroy the vital cosmic points of Ikki and disintegrate Odysseus ignored his cloth.

Cain must be considered at least Universal level, he is claimed to be more powerful than Shijima and Shaka (ND), Cain should also be considered a character capable of ignoring the opponent's physical defense.














Note: Odysseus possesses the ability to regenerate your entire body after destroyed in pieces.

 

[KoolRay]

Waiting for full translation but Odysseus wanted him to strike at full force, so possible he simply let his defenses down to show his abilities.


No doubt he's stronger than Shijima, but would say that power is more technique than just being that strong, so not sure about scaling.

 

[DrunkHC]

Cain.
Como era de se esperarse del GEX...Tiene un poder terrible.
En circunstancias normales mi cuerpo debería haberse vuelto añicos y desaparecido en la oscuridad del espacio.
Sin embargo no debes olvidarte de algo...Yo soy médico.


Translation:

Cain. As expected from the GEX ... It has terrible power. Under normal circumstances my body should have shattered and disappeared into the darkness of space. However, you should not forget something ... I am a doctor.




Cain's galactic explosion is said to shake the universe, Cain Gemini is the most powerful golden saint, Odysseus is the reincarnation of Asclepius, the ancient saint of serpentary was said to be the most powerful saint of all time ie he is more powerful than the Mythological Pegasus who as well as Seiya wounded Hades in his original body.

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

No doubt he's stronger than Shijima, but would say that power is more technique than just being that strong, so not sure about scaling.

No, Cain is the strongest of the Gold Saints, therefore it is scaled by Shijima, all the techniques of Shijima are weaker than the techniques of Cain. Shijma is even weaker than Shaka, who can fight against him with only a projection formed with a fraction of his cosmos in the Andromeda Cloth (after his death in the original).

 

[Frantzy12]

Ain't you that guy from comicvine?

 

[KoolRay]

No doubt he's stronger than Shijima, but would say that power is more technique than just being that strong, so not sure about scaling.

No, Cain is the strongest of the Gold Saints, therefore it is scaled by Shijima, all the techniques of Shijima are weaker than the techniques of Cain. Shijma is even weaker than Shaka, who can fight against him with only a projection formed with a fraction of his cosmos in the Andromeda Cloth (after his death in the original).

Don't think it was stated to only a fraction but just his blood. I would agree if The Divine sound was just another destractive technquie but it's not, it's a specific move that starts by creating darkness around the temple. Shaka calls it a miracle created by traning in slience, even stated anyone else would have been defeated. So I can't agree on scaling the technquies here, scaling by virture of destroying the 13ths body sure.

 

[DrunkHC]

Shijima was the only saint to be able to hear Shion's telepathic message, Cain did not. I consider the BFR-Hax of Shijima more dangerous than the Another dimension of Cain although the A.D of Cain is more powerful, Shijima has astral projections that combined with his several Hax makes the redhead someone with a more complex fighting style than Cain.

So I do not agree that Cain is superior in all respects to Shijima. Also Cain only showed to be able to access his maximum power after Odysseu cured him of his cancerous, before the surgery Cain was less powerful than Shijima.

Cain(post-surgery)>>Shijima>>Cain/Abel>>Abel

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

Don't think it was stated to only a fraction but just his blood. I would agree if The Divine sound was just another destractive technquie but it's not, it's a specific move that starts by creating darkness around the temple. Shaka calls it a miracle created by traning in slience, even stated anyone else would have been defeated. So I can't agree on scaling the technquies here, scaling by virture of destroying the 13ths body sure.

It is only a fraction of Shaka's cosmos after his death in the original, some drops of blood do not have the whole cosmos of the Saint. It's just an attack technique, which has destructive power, this is not like Tembu Horim, Seki Shiki Mekai Ha or Another Dimension. Therefore, the destructive power of the G.E is scaled from the destructive power of other techniques, because it is the most powerful techniques of destructive power, the technique of the Saint that is described as the strongest Gold Saint of all time.

 

[DrunkHC]

A technique in Saint seiya varies a lot when used by different users, the Cain Galatic explosion is superior to the other GEX in all aspects. The Galatic Explosion is the technique with the most potential of destructive power among the golds, but I consider Aiolos's Infinity Break, Gestalt Goddess Arrow and Lighinting Void of Aiolos(anti Pope) to be more dangerous attacks than GEX. About Shijima attacks, there is the Pokemon factor, sometimes a Saint possesses the Skills that allows him to resist better or even completely annul a technique, Shaka had the power and abilities that allowed him to nullify Shijima's attacks, that does not mean that others saints could do the same. One should always analyze these factors before stating that one technique is weak or inferior to another.

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

This is right.

The Galaxy Explosion of Cain is more powerful than the Galaxian Explosion of Saga, because Cain is described as the most powerful Gold Saint. This is like comparing the power of the version of the Ryusei Ken of Marin against Ryusei Ken of Seiya.

- Infinity Break (the best feat of the technique is to kill some soldiers and defeat an aspiring to Gold Saint as Galan) is not more powerful than the Galaxian Explosion of Saga, and is not more powerful than Cain's version.
- The Megami no Ya (Goddess Arrow) is not a technique is a divine weapon, a weapon that eliminates everything from existence and can only be stopped by the goddess Athena.
- The Lightning Void is the most powerful technique of Aiolos (Lost World), who is possibly one (or the most powerful) of the most powerful Saints in the multiverse. Is clearly more powerful than the Galaxian Explosion of Cain. This is like comparing the Ryusei Ken of Seiya (God Cloth) with the Galaxian Explosion of Cain, the Ryusei Ken is infinitely more powerful.

 

[DrunkHC]

Saint seiya Encyclopedia Taizen says about the techniques of Aiolos:Além das habilidades de luta tinha exelente personalidade. Seus golpes secretos hoje s├úo lendas.

Translation:Besides the fighting skills had excellent personality. Your secret blows today are legends.

Episode G Galaxian Encyclopedia says:Aiolos tem um ataque t├úo poderoso que poderia atingir até mesmo os Deuses.


Um dos ataques principais de Aiolos, sua for├ºa é t├úo devastadora que ele varreu o exército do Deus do Sol em apenas um golpe.


Translation:Aiolos has such a powerful attack that it could hit even the Gods.


One of Aiolos' main attacks, his strength is so devastating that he swept the Sun God's army in just one blow.

Soon this argument that the technique of Aiolos is not a big thing because "only" defeated randons goes against what Okada thinks, the technique of Aiolos is obviously a powerful blow.

Lighiting void is a naturally very powerful blow not only because Aiolos has a huge cosmos, but as stated that Aiolos' electric attacks are another level in relation to Aioria, the lion has an electrical technique of the same level as the Galatic Explosion that is Photon Burts. The arrow of the Goddess is indeed a weapon but it is part of the Gestalt arsenal just as the golden spear is part of the arsenal of the shogun marina Krishna.

Pegasus attacks are deadly due the ability to generate miracles that their cosmos possess, which allows the Pegasus to defeat great Gods that the other Saints are incapable of doing.

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

@DrunkHC

Saga is officially more powerful than Aiolos. The techniques do not have feats or are not more powerful than the techniques of the other Saints. The Infinity Break only defeated the army of the sun god and the Shadow Arrow was stopped by Shura.

The god described in the profile, is an impostor god created by the primordial water of Pontus when he was sealed in Egypt. And Aiolos defeats him using an arrow with the power of the sun in his armor, not the Infinity Break.

• https://imgur.com/a/sJElGC2

The only feat of Infinity Break is to defeat a weak army (the army of the sun god) and overcome its technique (is like a small star).

• https://imgur.com/a/9b3JiWz

The techniques of Aiolos (lost world) are powerful because their cosmos is the highest among the Saints. Even Suisei Ken overcome to Galaxian Explosion in the Sanctuary arc, because the cosmos of Seiya (amplified by his brothers) is more powerful than the cosmos of Saga.

The arrow is a divine weapon, this is not a technique or the power of the Saint. The arrow is just a weapon as the 12 weapons of Libra. This is a weapon of Athena given to Sagittarius, therefore, it is much more powerful than the techniques of the Saints because is the weapon of a goddess.

 

[DrunkHC]

"Saga is officially more powerful than Aiolos" I want to know where people get this speech, with respect to the number of speeches that extolling the power of both Aiolos has more, if you refer to the speech of Aiolos in episode 0 on Saga, Aiolos I say the same thing in relation to Aioria in Episode 0 G Aiolos, if people still do not understand Aiolos is very humble. On power Aiolos showed much more feats than Saga or any other gold while alive, Saga was only to be comparable in power to Shion (old) in Episode G, Aiolos had already died in time, people have to understand chronology from verse to speech of the Ikki in Nd on Saga is irrelevant, the Shaka which Ikki faced was a much weaker than Shaka (ND).

About comparing Dohko with Gestalt is serious ???? Who compares arrow of the Goddess with weapons of Libra ....

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

@DrunkHC

In Zero, Aiolos says that Saga is the strongest. Saga almost defeats Aiolos with the illusion in the Temple of Gemini and the Another Dimension. In the Classic and ND it is described that Saga is the most powerful several times. Aiolos does not show great power in history, and his most important feat is to fight against a projection of Typhon (a fraction of the god's power, which is weaker than Athena in Gigantomachia) and prevent him from breaking his seal.

Because they are weapons or objects, although the arrow is more powerful because it is a divine weapon.

 

[DrunkHC]

Aiolos is the coolest saint of gold, he is humble with the people he likes, is part of his personality, read Episode G 0 and episode 0 of Kuramada, Aiolos is pure humility he loved Saga as a brother, Saga say that of all the people the last one he wanted to see on his bad side was Aiolos. People are using Aiolos' speech in Episode 0 as an argument that are is ignoring all the construction behind the characters as well as the context as well as the chronology of the work. At the very same the Saga when possessed by its bad side it was affirmed like someone more intelligent is versatile that Aiolos in question of power the own Gemini was placed in the same level of Sagittarius. Read the works and stop being fanboys, Saga is obviously not the most powerful saint.

 

[Crateris_Aeson]

I'm not a fanboy of Saga, but the authors describe him as the strongest in the manga, especially in Zero, ND and Classic. Aiolos does not have impressive feats among the Gold Saints, and in Zero he clearly says that he is weaker than Saga and is easily defeated by Geminis.

 

[DrunkHC]

hahahahahaha Aiolos easily defeated by Saga! Aiolos removed Athena from the cradle before Saga hit her by the Dagger soon in a row Aiolos gives a punch in the middle of Saga's face that loses the mask the Gemini is unable to contain Aiolos who were only concerned to defend Athena baby, Saga was never said more powerful than Aiolos in the classic or ND, Ikki never fought with Aiolos the sagittarius died before Ikki if he wants to know what cosmos was, Ikki never face Aiolos the speech of Ikki in ND on the power of Saga is of no use. Saga was a little more powerful than Shaka in the time of the twelve temples, nothing more.


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[JohnsKidaka]

I'm not a fanboy of aiolos, but he's the strongest Gold Saint multiversal buster and solos all the golds with 1 finger,even though he died and did nothing in the series.