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Broly Spoilers for Dragon Ball Movie.
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I hope they explain them ripping apart RealityAKM sama said:
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Or whether or not it was multiple at once? Video got struck by the copyright so I can't view the scene.AKM sama said:
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https://youtu.be/fI0B2syXw5IHere's the full fight
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See that's the thing, they didn't destroy both dimensions at once. They destroyed one, got transported to another, then destroyed that one. Thats like destroying our solar system in one shot, teleporting to another one, destroying that one, and calling him 4-A. It has to be in one go, not one at a time.
Not to mention the very first dimension they shattered (Earth Universe) was completely fine despite getting shattered (reality warping punches anybody)?
Not to mention the very first dimension they shattered (Earth Universe) was completely fine despite getting shattered (reality warping punches anybody)?
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Still think dragon ball's ratings are a little too low
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Not at once. I even made a thread over it long ago and it was confirmed that yes, destroying multiple universes but one at a time is not 2-C.
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Even if it was two dimensions, it's two characters breaking them and that just puts them really far into low 2-C
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I'd really rather have that then 2-C. Low 2-C is a decent tier for these guys. I feel like 2-Cs would give him similar W/L ratios to his DBH version.
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Their beam attacks caused reality to shatter in the first place, it's Reality Warping but limited imo since only their attacks affect realityLightbuster30 said:
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I'm still not really sold on the Reality Warping. There's nothing warped, besides the fact they end up in some other dimension or space, so I'd just put it down to Space Manipulation.
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The novel is the best bet, as whether any dimension was destroyed is very uncertain still. They originally make the same break effect when they end up transported, but when they get back it's pretty obvious their original reality is without a scratch.
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They literally shatter reality like glass in the scene and their final punch reshapes everything back to where they were previously. You have to watch the scene to get some context, though i don't want to argue about it and it's just my opinion anyways so you're free to disagree.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Only their attacks affect reality, i.e in matches where they have the AP advanatage this literally doesn't matter since its limited
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If their strongest attacks can shatter, then re-create reality yet doesn't affect them, wouldn't that give them resistance to it? (Minor)
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I'm not arguing whether is limited or not, but that they don't reconstruct anything. Or at least, that's what it looks like with the context I have. They are somewhere, punch stuff and then they are elsewhere, punch again and elsewhere, punch again and back. There's literally nothing to assume the dimensions were destroyed as they fought because reality was okay when they came back, and there's also no Reality Warping visible because nothing implies reality is being affected beyond them going elsewhere.
If the novel really addresses what's happening or gives more context, it would help a lot.
If the novel really addresses what's happening or gives more context, it would help a lot.
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Didn't imply it was about wether or not its limited, just argued that it COULD be reality warping since they literally shatter Reality and then somehow undo everything to come back to the real world.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Yeah i'm hoping the Novel gives some context
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I know, I just meant more with the given visual information, that's more a hope than a possibility. Nothing in the image seem to imply it's the case and feels like hoping for too much.
Then again Broly can Oozaru without a tail or becoming Oozaru, so anything is possible right now. **** logic my friends :U
Then again Broly can Oozaru without a tail or becoming Oozaru, so anything is possible right now. **** logic my friends :U
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Now that I think about it, when Goku tanked the spirit bomb he was probably sent to an alternate dimension.
Similar trigger too since it was 2 massive energies clashing against each other.
Similar trigger too since it was 2 massive energies clashing against each other.
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It kinda did look like it, plus the fact there was no body anywhere until the big EXPLOOOOOOSION after.
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No one could sense him as well.
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@Dragomer it is possible they only broke the dimensional barriers is a smaller area, rather than the whole thing. Could explain how the entire dimension was somehow unharmed.
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And? Are you gonna show the manual of universal teleporting ways and streamlined teleporting techniques? Ending in the same place after breaking a hole back to their dimension can be easily explained as spatial coordinates in one dimension corresponding to another's. But like the Reality Warping, it's assuming too much from too little.Dragomer said:
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We litteraly know how it look when someone teleport (IT and Kai Kai, both are fundamentaly different but have the same effect), when someone just fly there (Whis, Vados, Zeno's bodyguard) and when someone make a dimensional hole (Super Buu and Gotenks) in dragon ball, i agree we don't have enough info to say what it actualy is but we know enough to say what it wasn't.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
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Or do we really? No, we don't even know what it wasn't. Kai Kai and IT is mere tele without disturbing the enviroment and Buu is the only proper showcase of someone forcing a portal, then Gotenks exactly copies him. Deciding what isn't because this highly stylistic movie isn't following past cues is couting your chickens before they are even born in my book. We already had people thinking UI because of Gogeta's aura but that's just the producers adding kewl effects. Artistic freedom as far as I am concerned until there's more info.
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Yes, because as far as we know, all teleportation in dragon ball doesn't disturbe the environement; as the only two exemple show.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
No, it's called taking known factors into account, that's all, we already know how they artiscticaly choose to make those two things works and it doesn't correspond to that dimension stuff, meaning it's a new thing.
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Indeed, as far as we know. And with what we know, assuming Reality Warping is a bigger logical leap that makes no sense. So suddenly the possibility of another way doesn't exist, when it's two totally different characters ridiculously stronger than the ones known? And it's not 1 trying to achieve something but the side effect of 2 fighting? That sounds like being close minded or predisposed.
And we also know that's a series decades old and, dragon ball being dragon ball, there's no reason to believe spatial wall breakage or what have you would pull cues off from something Majin Buu did ages ago. It looks cool, which is a reason the series does a lot, that's all I am seeing.
And we also know that's a series decades old and, dragon ball being dragon ball, there's no reason to believe spatial wall breakage or what have you would pull cues off from something Majin Buu did ages ago. It looks cool, which is a reason the series does a lot, that's all I am seeing.
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https://twitter.com/moepara/status/1074669600388739072
Broly is conisdered the strongest opponent that Frieza has faced in the novel. So, greater than Jiren.
Broly is conisdered the strongest opponent that Frieza has faced in the novel. So, greater than Jiren.
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And the novel is already providing. Cryo, I can just taste the Ohohoho in your profile pic.
