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Anything to upgrade his childZiller invented physics as a Lord Boros reference
I almost gave up just due to the risk of sounding stupid to the calc group (people who actually know this kind of stuff) but I decided to keep pushing it just so I could make sure beyond a doubtZiller invented physics as a Lord Boros reference
I get itI almost gave up just due to the risk of sounding stupid to the calc group (people who actually know this kind of stuff) but I decided to keep pushing it just so I could make sure beyond a doubt
I’m glad I paid just enough attention during science class to be able to contest this
I know the feeling all too wellI get it
Sometimes I go in a thread with calc members and notice a problem but don't point it out due to the risk of sounding stupid
Then later on someone else brings up that exact problem and I was actually correct in noticing it as one
"5-B with Boros Discussion Thread"Ziller Attack Pontency: High 6-A (Stronger than Tatsumaki, fought and withstood Tatsumaki's simps... Casually bent the laws of physics in his favor to raise Boros to P-Class, created multiple CTRs at the same time, and got multiple Boros W), Probably Much higher (Was willing to scale Geryuganshoop above Tatsumaki).
Correct, the acceleration can be any value, but it is clear that Boros moved his leg 1.25 meters to kick Saitama, which caused the speed to exceed the speed of light.I see what Ziller is saying and I looked it up
It turns out Ziller is completely right
I'm not gonna try to explain it but here's what this guys said
"Acceleration and speed a fundamentally different things. Speed is the change in position over time. Acceleration is the change in speed over time. Relativity limits speed not acceleration."
Some more sources:
- https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/can-you-accelerate-faster-than-the-speed-of-light.456739/
- https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possibl...elerate-at-300-000-000m-s-2-for-half-a-second
- https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/101985/is-there-a-limit-to-acceleration#:~:text=Acceleration depends on velocity per,given time, acceleration is infinite.
So since Boros's kick is not FTL and Acceleration has no upper limit, the Class P calc would be valid
Though I'd prefer if we went with the F=MA version of the calc I did above instead of Work
not the case at allCorrect, the acceleration can be any value, but it is clear that Boros moved his leg 1.25 meters to kick Saitama, which caused the speed to exceed the speed of light.
The acceleration that we have obtained is 9.303 × 10^16 m/s^2. Do you see the unit? It is the speed that will occur during the acceleration over a distance of 1 meter, which of course means that the speed at the point of reaching 1 meter exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, Boros' kick is FTL. You cannot just look at the acceleration value, but also have to consider the distance where the acceleration occurs, which determines the resulting speed.Acceleration = 6512313210000000000 Newtons / 70kg
Acceleration a from a = F/m:
| 9.303×10^16 m/s^2
the acceleration is derived from the 90% sol, it's not possible to use the acceleration to go back and derive an ftl value from that, since the 90% was already built into the calc to begin with.The acceleration that we have obtained is 9.303 × 10^16 m/s^2. Do you see the unit? It is the speed that will occur during the acceleration over a distance of 1 meter, which of course means that the speed at the point of reaching 1 meter exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, Boros' kick is FTL. You cannot just look at the acceleration value, but also have to consider the distance where the acceleration occurs, which determines the resulting speed.
what is the speed value of the acceleration?The acceleration that we have obtained is 9.303 × 10^16 m/s^2. Do you see the unit? It is the speed that will occur during the acceleration over a distance of 1 meter, which of course means that the speed at the point of reaching 1 meter exceeds the speed of light. Therefore, Boros' kick is FTL. You cannot just look at the acceleration value, but also have to consider the distance where the acceleration occurs, which determines the resulting speed.
It is possible. It's just basic physics. Can you remember calculate momentum? I remember that the result is greater than the speed of light, but it's rejected because it's faster than light too.the acceleration is derived from the 90% sol, it's not possible to use the acceleration to go back and derive an ftl value from that, since the 90% was already built into the calc to begin with.
you do realize that this just means the acceleration took less than a second, right? It's meters per second squared, it's not as if he had taken a full second to make saitama reach that speed, when the entire journey to the moon only took like a couple seconds.It is possible. It's just basic physics. Can you remember calculate momentum? I remember that the result is greater than the speed of light, but it's rejected because it's faster than light too.
A = 9.303×10^16 m/s^2
Boros movement = 1.25 m
V = 9.303×10^16/1.25 = 7.4424e+16 m/s or 248251742.21 c
Not going to comment on whether using Acceleration to find Boros' speed is valid or not, but your math is wrong.A = 9.303×10^16 m/s^2
Boros movement = 1.25 m
V = 9.303×10^16/1.25 = 7.4424e+16 m/s or 248251742.21 c
Why would the timeframe be 1 minute? It's much less than one second.a = (v_f - v_i) / Δt
If acceleration is ~93 quadrillion m/s^2 as found from the original calc, with an initial velocity of 0 m/s and a verystupidgenerous timeframe of one minute, the kick itself would still be over 18 billion times C at the point of impact.
again, the acceleration being ftl means nothing, because at no point did boros break rela+a = (v_f - v_i) / Δt
If acceleration is ~93 quadrillion m/s^2 as found from the original calc, with an initial velocity of 0 m/s and a verystupidgenerous timeframe of one minute, the kick itself would still be over 18 billion times C at the point of impact.
Ultimately, we have to look at the actual distance that occurs. The acceleration still makes the speed FTL. I'm not indifferent to what they say.I feel like you guys are repeating yourselves and ignoring Shmeaty confirming Ziller was right with several sources
Just showing examples.Why would the timeframe be 1 minute? It's much less than one second.
Using the acceleration formula which accounts for distance: a = 2 × (Δd - v_i × Δt) / Δt²again, the acceleration being ftl means nothing, because at no point did boros break rela+
here's a little physics lesson free of charge
acceleration is how much speed increases in a certain amount of time
now if you can reach ftl in 1 second, congratulations, I guess you could call that ftl acceleration
now consider the following (bill! bill! bill! bill!)
the kick itself takes place across a little over a meter of distance, and the whole journey to the moon is..... a lot more than a meter, meaning almost none of that time was spent on the kick itself
in other words, there was no time for ftl acceleration to take place
wowzers.
a = (v_f - v_i) / Δt
If acceleration is ~93 quadrillion m/s^2 as found from the original calc, with an initial velocity of 0 m/s and a verystupidgenerous timeframe of one minute, the kick itself would still be over 18 billion times C at the point of impact.
Hey, calm down. Can we talk nicely? I'm not going to say anything rude.now of course if you pull one minute out of your ass, then you could magically say that he was spending a whole minute accelerating, which I guess would get him to an insanely inflated value like 93 quadrillion
additionally, I am so glad you support mftl+ Boros!
That's a very bad example. The timeframe is much smaller.Just showing examples.
A = 9.30300e16
∆t = 0.000000005184 seconds
a = (vf - vi) / ∆t
9.30300e16 = (vf - 0) / 0.000000005184
vf = 482267520 m/s, or 1.60867129c
I like how you decide to take a .9c value, inflate it to ftl and then not see how your math is wrong.Just showing examples.
Using the acceleration formula which accounts for distance: a = 2 × (Δd - v_i × Δt) / Δt²
Given the above variables and the distance Boros's leg traveled, the timeframe (of acceleration) would be 0.000000009391 seconds based on the above values. At which point, using that same timeframe, the feat is over 2 C.
No you did nothing wrong, that wasn’t directed at youHey, calm down. Can we talk nicely? I'm not going to say anything rude.
I'm not sure where 1 minute comes from.
Kachon also got 1.6c using the same math, are you dumb?I like how you decide to take a .9c value, inflate it to ftl and then not see how your math is wrong.
No you did nothing wrong, that wasn’t directed at you
I was talking to void because he’s inflating the speed beyond recognitionand also he does this all the time but let’s not even
We start with Saitama being launched at 0.9cwe explicitly start with the kick being 0.9c.
Kachon also got 1.6c using the same math, are you dumb?
Shiver me timbersI’m dumb
You calculated 18 billion times the speed of light after fabricating a timeframe and don’t know why
There's absolutely no need for you to be rude. Calm down man.Kachon also got 1.6c using the same math, are you dumb?
I'm not gonna try to explain it but here's what this guys said
"Acceleration and speed a fundamentally different things. Speed is the change in position over time. Acceleration is the change in speed over time. Relativity limits speed not acceleration."
Some more sources:
- https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/can-you-accelerate-faster-than-the-speed-of-light.456739/
- https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possibl...elerate-at-300-000-000m-s-2-for-half-a-second
- https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/101985/is-there-a-limit-to-acceleration#:~:text=Acceleration depends on velocity per,given time, acceleration is infinite.
I don't think anyone is claiming thisAnother Example
I run 50 meters in .5 seconds
My Velocity is 100 m/s
However my Acceleration is 400 m/s^2
Does that mean I ran 400 m/s second? No it doesn't
I don't think anyone is claiming this
Just showing examples.
Using the acceleration formula which accounts for distance: a = 2 × (Δd - v_i × Δt) / Δt²
Given the above variables and the distance Boros's leg traveled, the timeframe (of acceleration) would be 0.000000009391 seconds based on the above values. At which point, using that same timeframe, the feat is over 2 C.
To be honest, I've used GPT to find various results many times, and often GPT gives me inaccurate calculations.I checked with my goat gpt4 one more time
Firstly, to accelerate from rest to 90% sol, the acceleration would be 30,265,145,195,409,264 m/s²
And the timeframe with the given acceleration is 8.91 nanoseconds.
There’s no ftl present there
Also I asked if for the amount of force it would go to accelerate a 70kg object to 90% of the speed of light with only 1.2 meters, and it got 2.12*10^18 newtons.
Anybody wanna see the calculation?