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Boa Hancock vs Makima

JJSliderman said:
Bio hax is negated since Law demonstrated that Haki negated Doc Q’s biological alteration of him.
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This wouldn't work.

Law had to actively concentrate on negating Doc Q's Bio Hax for his haki to change him back.. It wasn't a passive, or instant process.

If Makima just glared at her and gave her an aneurysm, Boa wouldn't have time to undo it with Haki, nor would she be able to recover the damage.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
This wouldn't work.

Law had to actively concentrate on negating Doc Q's Bio Hax for his haki to change him back.. It wasn't a passive, or instant process.

If Makima just glared at her and gave her an aneurysm, Boa wouldn't have time to undo it with Haki, nor would she be able to recover the damage.
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She would resist it in the first place tho, wouldn't have to negate it... She has precog so she'll know to use haki
Zabazab said:
Would petrification even work? Makima resists Transmutation, and Public Safety– which has access to the Stone Devil– still didn't think she could be killed.
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If she resists petrification, Haki has resistance negation so it will still effect her
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
She would resist it in the first place tho, wouldn't have to negate it... She has precog so she'll know to use haki
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The idea that Boa would instantly predict that Makima simply glancing at her could destroy her insides, and coat herself in haki, all before Makima manages to pull off the attack, is flimsy at best. She can sense the intent of the attack, but it isn't future sight. Not at her level, anyway.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
The idea that Boa would instantly predict that Makima simply glancing at her could destroy her insides, and coat herself in haki, all before Makima manages to pull off the attack, is flimsy at best. She can sense the intent of the attack, but it isn't future sight. Not at her level, anyway.
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having haki ready/on and using actual buso is completely different, it will be like the same way law couldn't move kaido or big mom
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
having haki ready/on and using actual buso is completely different, it will be like the same way law couldn't move kaido or big mom
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The only two people we've seen who could “passively” nullify attacks just by having their haki out have far higher mastery of it than Boa. Why would we assume she could replicate their feat when literally no one else has shown able to? Especially since, as Law himself states, it requires a “great deal of Haki” to perform.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
The only two people we've seen who could “passively” nullify attacks just by having their haki out have far higher mastery of it than Boa. Why would we assume she could replicate their feat when literally no one else has shown able to? Especially since, as Law himself states, it requires a “great deal of Haki” to perform.
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Level of haki difference is my guess
Makima doesn't have any haki to resist it afterall
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Level of haki difference is my guess
Makima doesn't have any haki to resist it afterall
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Law explicitly states the very act of nullification requires a great deal of Haki. A higher layer can protect and overpower attacks from a lower one, sure, but it's made pretty clear that, even as a baseline, to directly negate hax like this you need a vast quantity of it. At least passively.

Keep in mind Law said this while fighting Doc Q, who has zero indication of any form of haki.
 
so...what?

I'm not denying Boa could replicate what Law did, as in focus her haki to forcefully countreact a devil fruit ability. I'm saying that she can't do what Big Mom and Kaido did, as in passively negate a devil fruit ability just by standing there. At least without applying a Buso coating beforehand or something of that nature.

There's a self-evident gap between these two.
 
Boa having observation means she could see herself dying of aneurysm in the future and take precautions to do the coating.
Although Makima just outlasting is more reliable anyway.
 
JJSliderman said:
Boa having observation means she could see herself dying of aneurysm in the future and take precautions to do the coating.
Although Makima just outlasting is more reliable anyway.
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boa has intermediate observation. She doesn't directly see into the future, she senses the intent of the attack. Meaning it's much less likely she would be able to react, considering Makima can activate said ability with a single glance, with no travel time. Boa would effectively need to sense the attack and coat herself before Makima even looks at her.
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
The only two people we've seen who could “passively” nullify attacks just by having their haki out have far higher mastery of it than Boa. Why would we assume she could replicate their feat when literally no one else has shown able to? Especially since, as Law himself states, it requires a “great deal of Haki” to perform.
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My guy... Nullify and resisting are two different things, and her using her haki while fighting isn't something she's not going to do

We see this with Tashigi and Law where smoker says her haki isn't strong enough

Haki is an invisible armor/aura around you which you can use whenever... Not just to nullify which law did by using alot of his haki aura
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Law explicitly states the very act of nullification requires a great deal of Haki. A higher layer can protect and overpower attacks from a lower one, sure, but it's made pretty clear that, even as a baseline, to directly negate hax like this you need a vast quantity of it. At least passively.

Keep in mind Law said this while fighting Doc Q, who has zero indication of any form of haki.
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Again... Has nothing to do with the haki nullification... Which isn't even passive at all, you'd have to use a lot of haki in the moment you've been affected

The resistance is something that can be manually passive/turned on, this is even accepted one the haki page
Resistance to
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Initial Stage: Haki users at this stage are capable of using Busoshoku Haki at its basic levels, where they can strengthen their body by covering themselves with the invisible armor[33]. They can generate this armor and utilize its ability to resist Devil Fruit powers, most notably being able to touch Logias. Unlike the other colors, this is not an initial stage of a Haki shade that works uncontrollably, and the user knows that they're using it.
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That's how haki works, has nothing to do with it being big mom or kaido
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
My guy... Nullify and resisting are two different things, and her using her haki while fighting isn't something she's not going to do

We see this with Tashigi and Law where smoker says her haki isn't strong enough

Haki is an invisible armor/aura around you which you can use whenever... Not just to nullify which law did by using alot of his haki aura
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Her buso isn't strong enough to negate Law’s devil fruit ability, yeah. I know buso haki is an invisible armor that can be used to protect against attacks, that's a function of the haki itself.

You see what I THOUGHT you were arguing is that having that level of haki, by itself, would grant Boa resistance to the ability without any application of buso. Which may have been a mistake on my part.

Which then still leads to my initial claim that Makima could bio hax her before Boa could coat herself in defense to said bio hax. Since Boa, in combat, is never shown to keep herself constantly wrapped in buso (like say…Vergo does).
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Which then still leads to my initial claim that Makima could bio hax her before Boa could coat herself in defense to said bio hax. Since Boa, in combat, is never shown to keep herself constantly wrapped in buso (like say…Vergo does).
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hardening /=/ buso haki, did kaido coat himself in hardening so that law couldn't teleport him? No he just had it active

Boa not only is in a state of mind where she's going to fight, but also has precog to know what's going to happen and alert her to use haki
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Her buso isn't strong enough to negate Law’s devil fruit ability, yeah. I know buso haki is an invisible armor that can be used to protect against attacks, that's a function of the haki itself.
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wasn't strong enough to block/resists his devil fruit, not negate...

Haki first blocks devil fruit abilitys... That's something anyone with haki can do, the next step is being able to negate devil fruit ability by using strong amounts of haki (which you can do if you've been effected when off guarded or if they've used haki with their ability so you'd have to use even more to overpower it)
 
I'm with MOL here. Kenbun allows people to act without even knowing what the attack is beforehand.

Some examples:

In the case that Makima targets Boa's internal organs, the odds that Boa's Haki would automatically activate in reaction to sensing Makima's killing intent is far more likely than it not happening, especially considering SBA.
 
Regardless, Makima still has Cosmo Devil's hax, BFR, Life Absorption, Dollification, and Petrification of her own.
 
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