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How would this interact with Kenbun, which is stated to be beyond the realms of the mind?
How do we expect this to be able to touch Boa when she has Kenbu. and can petrify the hand from a distance?
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Boa Hancock vs Makima
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Source? Also so was Santa and she got affected by it (see the imgur album I posted).
Pochita was literally blitz levels faster than this thing and got caught when it used BFR. Even if she does avoid it Makima can immobilize her using mold and then try again.
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Rayleigh.
Could you elaborate?
Could you link Pochita getting caught?
Haki resists paralyzation via Magellan's devil fruit.
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After eating a piece of the darkness flesh(one of the primordial devils) santa stated that mental attacks "won't work on her" and that using that kind of attack was like "trying to dye the ocean red with a single drop of blood"
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The mold Devil power is organic manip
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As is Magellan's paralysis.
Having resistance to mind manipulation is not the same as being beyond it entirely.
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As far as I'm aware Halloween and Conquest are not layered. Conquest wouldn't work on Boa due to Haki and Halloween most likely wouldn't come out given that this is Makima in character and she's never used it before.
Outside of that there's some misconception of Boa's love hax. Makima herself doesn't need to feel attracted towards her for her to petrify folk. If Makima feels any love, lust or adoration then she's getting turned to stone.
Outside of that there's some misconception of Boa's love hax. Makima herself doesn't need to feel attracted towards her for her to petrify folk. If Makima feels any love, lust or adoration then she's getting turned to stone.
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You literally cropped out most of it. She can effect cyborgs without any emotion whatsoever, she can effect Makima just fine.Her profile doesn't say that tho
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Yes, I cropped out the "inanimate objects" part, because Makima isn't that? But here's the full description:
Her NA/T section also says the same thing,
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That is not referring to any kind of resistance to information manipulation.
I literally already did but okay.
It doesn't resist mold growing inside a person.
Headcanon.
Boa doesn't have any resistance to Information Manipulation iirc.
Neither is haki. You are grossly misinterpreting that quote.
The only actual fights Makima has had after aquiring that ability was against Pochita and then "Denji" which were both very special encounters for her.
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How am I misinterpreting Rayleigh's words? He quite literally said that beyond things of the mind such as the imagination (which is literally just you thinking), that's where Kenbun operates.
Is Denji not being held still?
How so?
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That doesn't mean Boa's mind isn't susceptible to hax, even if her kenbu is still operating her conciousness wouldn't be there.
No.
That's not organic manipulation. By paralysis I meant that she couldn't move because her organs would be shutting down.
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That's pretty much irrelevant to what she does in character. She's never used it in combat before, doesn't matter how many fights she's had.
Anyway Conquest gets resisted due to it not being layered. Halloween could work but again I vehemently disagree with her using that in character from what we've seen.
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I also find it extremely doubtful that Hell BFR would work here as Haki grants resistance to spatial manipulation and BFR.
Hell BFR is based on spatial shit, forcing people to be transported to another dimension. Boa can stop this from happening with resistance to both of these aforementioned abilities.
Hell BFR is based on spatial shit, forcing people to be transported to another dimension. Boa can stop this from happening with resistance to both of these aforementioned abilities.
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I'm assuming that out right controlling her wont be an option now, Makima will just end up outlasting Boa due to her contract. She wont get petrified due to only ever showing attraction to Pochita/The Chainsaw Devil and not being able to see at all only remembering the scent of humans, once Boa resists her Mind control like she did with Pochita, will likely throw everything she's got at Boa that including Cosmo's Mind hax, Dollification and other Devil abilities she possess manually or through Public Saftey
The ability she likely deems more effective against Boa overtime which might be Cosmo's Mind Hax will likely be used to end the fight
The ability she likely deems more effective against Boa overtime which might be Cosmo's Mind Hax will likely be used to end the fight
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Petrification gg
Voting for boa fra
Voting for boa fra
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Counted. If anyone wants to change their vote with the new evidence or vote in general, please do so.
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Assuming boa does get transported to the mental dimension before using her love beam and precog (or if haki wouldn't resist it), she would still be able to sense and move her real body with observation haki
getting makima by surprise and petrifying her
I guess I’ll vote boa for the above reasons if the match is continued
getting makima by surprise and petrifying her
I guess I’ll vote boa for the above reasons if the match is continued
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I mean how exactly is Boa, winning.
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By using aoe beam or touch via utilizing Observation haki and turning makima to stone, which will one shot and be a very quick that makima won’t have time to defend against
How exactly is makima winning?
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Makima herself has precog and far higher perception/reaction speed, she can see what will happen and act accordingly first. Makima will be able to cause a fatal brain bleed via glaring before Boa can use Haki to protect herself.
(Also, the Hell Devil isn't space manip, it's teleportation/dimensional travel.)
(Also, the Hell Devil isn't space manip, it's teleportation/dimensional travel.)
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her precog is through someone else and boa's can be spammed (don't fully remember how the future devil works), obs Haki enabled a child to be able to react to lightning moving through gold so no, Boa has the faster perception/reaction speed still
Observation haki will sense danger subconsciously, making boa use haki so no
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Boa doesn't have higher reaction speed via obs Haki listed, so Makima still outspeeds.
The Future Devil works by overlapping the user's vision with that same sight several seconds into the true future. This is one of the abilities Makima actually uses during the events of the story, so it's very in-character.
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because it's a Stat Amp to her reactions from haki, so no
Sure but I remember you having to give limbs or life span to see the future, and the activation has to be manually made... Her seeing the future when boa already shot an aoe love beam will do nothing to her but know she's going to turn to stone
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The only people who needed to do that were devil hunters the future devil wasn't interested in and that was only to make the contract not after it was made, makima never had to do that.
Makima starts fighting with the future devil power activated (like in the gun devil fight)
Can't makima teleport to avoid the attack?
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her teleport aren't instant and also through rats?
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She can teleport instantly using the spider devil
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She is fighting a opponent she doesn't know anything about and somehow can resist her mind control, she used the future devil power even when fighting the gun devil (and she was so much stronger than it that she one shotted it)
She only needed to telepathically say "call me'' and she appeared in hell, i'm pretty sure she can avoid boa power using it(especially with the future devil)
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if boa resisted her mind control than future devil isn't what she used first which means she'll turn to stone before using that devil
She has to bring the devil, open the sipper and move inside it...
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How does the AOE beam even work against makima?
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mommy makima blows her up fr
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The spider devil is already out, it doesn't need to be summoned like the others
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It's not listed on Boa's page or on the Haki page, so no.
The Future Sight is passive, and she doesn't need to give up anything as she's using Aki's antemortem Devil Contract.
Additionally, her page says her petrifying strikes only petrify the area they hit, and not the entire target, so she can't one-shot Makima that way.
No. She telepathically tells Princi to call her, and Makima appears out of the zipper on Princi's body. She does not get in the zipper.
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