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Bleach Revisions Part 1: Soul Society Arc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VnyRqGy2NQ&t=1387sAernasilver said:
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Faster =/= StrongerLordWhis said:
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Nothing shows that Yoruichi is stronger than Byakuya, heck she was struggling with Soi Fon. Unless you want to say that Soi is stronger than Byakuya which is more idiotic.
@Zoro: We have already had plenty of discussions regarding Negacion. It isn't accepted so that video servers no purpose.
@Zoro: We have already had plenty of discussions regarding Negacion. It isn't accepted so that video servers no purpose.
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I agree with the revisions .
yeah yoruichi was rusty in the SS arc ,she say so herself . She became stronger in the later arcs due to regainning her former level of power .
yeah yoruichi was rusty in the SS arc ,she say so herself . She became stronger in the later arcs due to regainning her former level of power .
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Yoruichi stomped Yammy who was comparable to Bankai Ichigo. Even Ulqiorra admitted she was out of their weight class. And this also indicates that Aizen warned the Espada about Yoruichi which is something he didn't do with Byakuya or Kenpachi. Yoruichi was fully confident she could one shot Aizen at Sokyoku Hill and Aizen chose to run away from her while Gin had no qualms about attacking and one-shotting Byakuya.
She wounded and knocked back/down Hogyoku Aizen several times without even using Flash Goddess.
She stomped Soi fon who was able to somewhat compete with Espada no. 2. Bankai Ichigo got shitstomped by Espada number 6 without even using his resurreccion. Even with a hollow mask he barely beat Espada number 4 without his resurrecion.
Yoruichi >>> Soi fon <=> Base Barragan >>>>>>> Base Grimmjow >>> SS arc Byakuya >>> Shikai Ichigo = Eyepatch-less ss arc Kenpachi > eye patch ss arc Kenpachi >> Bankai ss arc Tosen
By feats she blows Byakuya away. She is much older and more experienced than he is. She was probably a captain before he was even born. She is considered stronger in verse. She singlehandedly broke Urahara and Tessai out of Central 46. There is no possible way SS arc Byakuya is stronger than her. She is a top tier while Byakuya was probably a mid-tier in SS arc.
Even if she was rusty there is no way she could be weaker than Byakuya.
She wounded and knocked back/down Hogyoku Aizen several times without even using Flash Goddess.
She stomped Soi fon who was able to somewhat compete with Espada no. 2. Bankai Ichigo got shitstomped by Espada number 6 without even using his resurreccion. Even with a hollow mask he barely beat Espada number 4 without his resurrecion.
Yoruichi >>> Soi fon <=> Base Barragan >>>>>>> Base Grimmjow >>> SS arc Byakuya >>> Shikai Ichigo = Eyepatch-less ss arc Kenpachi > eye patch ss arc Kenpachi >> Bankai ss arc Tosen
By feats she blows Byakuya away. She is much older and more experienced than he is. She was probably a captain before he was even born. She is considered stronger in verse. She singlehandedly broke Urahara and Tessai out of Central 46. There is no possible way SS arc Byakuya is stronger than her. She is a top tier while Byakuya was probably a mid-tier in SS arc.
Even if she was rusty there is no way she could be weaker than Byakuya.
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one shotted an already exhausted and severly hurt byakuya . I don't think that count .
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>Yoruichi stomped Yammy who was comparable to Bankai Ichigo
This is irrelevant because of this, and Ichigo stomping him before zangetsu start to act like a bitch and later after the fight, Yoruichi complaining about how it hurting her arms and legs when she hitting yammyso she ain't so tough, I mean why do you think Urahara create Anti-Hierro Armor for her?
>>Yoruichi was fully confident she could one shot Aizen at Sokyoku Hill and Aizen chose to run away from her while Gin had no qualms about attacking and one-shotting Byakuya.
Aizen chose to run away because he already complete his goal and later he has been surrounded by everyone including Yamamoto which he prefered not to fight since he admit Yamamoto as superior to him in combat.
>>She wounded and knocked back/down Hogyoku Aizen several times without even using Flash Goddess.
Shes not, first she using special made equipment by Urahara and second she only damage his outer layer, but she never damage Aizen himself, even their combine attack+isshin getsuga only damage his outer layer but not Aizen, can someone bring the colored scans for this?
>>She stomped Soi fon who was able to somewhat compete with Espada no. 2.
Byakuya and Zaraki fighting and defeating Yammy who arguably>>everyone else sans Segunda etapa, and this is about SS Arc Yoruichi, not Arrancar arc Yoruichi since there are time skip between arcs, including from the start of the Arrancar arc to the end of the Arrancar arc so many of your points is irrelevant.
This is irrelevant because of this, and Ichigo stomping him before zangetsu start to act like a bitch and later after the fight, Yoruichi complaining about how it hurting her arms and legs when she hitting yammyso she ain't so tough, I mean why do you think Urahara create Anti-Hierro Armor for her?
>>Yoruichi was fully confident she could one shot Aizen at Sokyoku Hill and Aizen chose to run away from her while Gin had no qualms about attacking and one-shotting Byakuya.
Aizen chose to run away because he already complete his goal and later he has been surrounded by everyone including Yamamoto which he prefered not to fight since he admit Yamamoto as superior to him in combat.
>>She wounded and knocked back/down Hogyoku Aizen several times without even using Flash Goddess.
Shes not, first she using special made equipment by Urahara and second she only damage his outer layer, but she never damage Aizen himself, even their combine attack+isshin getsuga only damage his outer layer but not Aizen, can someone bring the colored scans for this?
>>She stomped Soi fon who was able to somewhat compete with Espada no. 2.
Byakuya and Zaraki fighting and defeating Yammy who arguably>>everyone else sans Segunda etapa, and this is about SS Arc Yoruichi, not Arrancar arc Yoruichi since there are time skip between arcs, including from the start of the Arrancar arc to the end of the Arrancar arc so many of your points is irrelevant.
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Its a downgrade because rn they are Large Mountain level.
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Do you have any proof the Soi fon Yoruichi beat up was weaker than the one that fought Barragan ?
Why are you bringing up HM arc Byakuya and Kenpachi ?
Until rg training Byakuya was always weaker than Yoruichi at the same point in time. By the time he took on Yammy, Yoruichi was taking on friggin Hogyoku Aizen who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yammy
Why are you bringing up HM arc Byakuya and Kenpachi ?
Until rg training Byakuya was always weaker than Yoruichi at the same point in time. By the time he took on Yammy, Yoruichi was taking on friggin Hogyoku Aizen who is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yammy
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Idk how that's relevant and spamming doesn't help and why bringing up Arrancar arc Yoruichi and soi fon in the first place
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These characters train so ofc there is a different Soi Fon.
Yoruichi doesn't scale to Byakuya as of now, she is faster but nothing indicates she is stronger here.
Yoruichi doesn't scale to Byakuya as of now, she is faster but nothing indicates she is stronger here.
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Yoruichi says no one in the Ryoka team can beat Byakuya which includes herself.
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She was obviously not including herself. Also I'd argue Letz Stil Uryu could probably beat Byakuya.
Soi fon only has 2 keys.
FKT arc Yoruichi was obviously much stronger than FKT arc Byakuya why would their relative power levels change so much in a couple of arcs ? Yoruichi was rusty sure but it shouldn't make that much of a difference.
I know the entire Urahara shop gang has tonnes of PIS anti-feats because of their role in the story but logically speaking Yoruichi being weaker than Byakuya at any point before RG training is laughable.
Soi fon only has 2 keys.
FKT arc Yoruichi was obviously much stronger than FKT arc Byakuya why would their relative power levels change so much in a couple of arcs ? Yoruichi was rusty sure but it shouldn't make that much of a difference.
I know the entire Urahara shop gang has tonnes of PIS anti-feats because of their role in the story but logically speaking Yoruichi being weaker than Byakuya at any point before RG training is laughable.
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Idk why you relied on outdated profiles, there are recent revision who gave ichigo severals more keys as example.
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Please stick to the soul society arc. The profiles are gonna get additional keys, most profiles are heavily neglected so idk why you think because a profile has 2 keys it's absolute.
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Prove she wasn't including herself. If she could just slap him barehanded while out of practice, why didn't she? And before you argue PIS, both Occam's razor and Yoruichi say she couldn't.
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I don't see why Soi-fon has to be weaker than Byakuya in SS arc. Byakuya obviously became much stronger between SS arc and HM arc. He probably got a massive zenkai boost from his fight with Zommari in which the dude literally cuts up entire his body.
Heck the fact that Soi fon could take on Barragan without any high level training fights indicates she was likely stronger than Kenpachi and Byakuya going into the arc who had to struggle against the much weaker Nnoitra and Zommari before they could fight a high level Espada in Yammy. I guess you could say she fought a few fraccione but I doubt she grew much because of those fights.
Also hasn't Soi fon literally beaten Byakuya in a fight ? Nonetheless even based on their current stats Soi fon would stomp Byakuya, she's just blitz him and touch him twice.
Heck the fact that Soi fon could take on Barragan without any high level training fights indicates she was likely stronger than Kenpachi and Byakuya going into the arc who had to struggle against the much weaker Nnoitra and Zommari before they could fight a high level Espada in Yammy. I guess you could say she fought a few fraccione but I doubt she grew much because of those fights.
Also hasn't Soi fon literally beaten Byakuya in a fight ? Nonetheless even based on their current stats Soi fon would stomp Byakuya, she's just blitz him and touch him twice.
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Why is it so difficult for you to actually focus on the arc the crt is for???
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Yoruichi says she can't beat him. Byakuya > Yoruichi > Soifon
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>>He probably got a massive zenkai boost from his fight with Zommari in which the dude literally cuts up entire his body
Sounds like fanfic, especially when Byakuya over and over again stated that there are massive different in power between them as Zommari can only keep up with speed (I think it stated that hes the fastest espada in manga and databook) and hax
>>Heck the fact that Soi fon could take on Barragan
On her own, she's powerless vs Barragan, even against base Barragan.
>>Nnoitra
Manga and Databook stated that Nnoitra has the hardest Hiero and Zaraki only quite struggle because its hard to cut Nnoitra, until he decided to use both of his arms and he one shot.
Sounds like fanfic, especially when Byakuya over and over again stated that there are massive different in power between them as Zommari can only keep up with speed (I think it stated that hes the fastest espada in manga and databook) and hax
>>Heck the fact that Soi fon could take on Barragan
On her own, she's powerless vs Barragan, even against base Barragan.
>>Nnoitra
Manga and Databook stated that Nnoitra has the hardest Hiero and Zaraki only quite struggle because its hard to cut Nnoitra, until he decided to use both of his arms and he one shot.
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Feats and there is a statement saying Byakuya is on par or slightly weaker than Kenpachi.
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Base byakuya is a bit stronger than eyepatched kenpatchi. That is what the statement from ganju say .
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Lol what
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Idk what's so special with one shot severely injured and exhausted perso
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