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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread #6
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Ehh i'm not the one you should ask about this but it is here.
Please do not attempt to upgrade Bleach to 5-B again. This has been discussed to exhaustion throughout discussion threads numbering literal thousands of posts, and eventually we finally reached the Conclusion that the collapse / merging of Earth, Soul Society and Hueco Mundo is not a direct feat, but rather a natural collateral-effect of the flow of souls being unbalanced , and as such characters cannot scale to it.
Please do not attempt to upgrade Bleach to 5-B again. This has been discussed to exhaustion throughout discussion threads numbering literal thousands of posts, and eventually we finally reached the Conclusion that the collapse / merging of Earth, Soul Society and Hueco Mundo is not a direct feat, but rather a natural collateral-effect of the flow of souls being unbalanced , and as such characters cannot scale to it.
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@Danny
I suggest you ask Matthew Schroeder as he is the most knowledgeable staff member outside of Soldier Blue regarding the series Bleach,at least that is what Antvasima told me.
I suggest you ask Matthew Schroeder as he is the most knowledgeable staff member outside of Soldier Blue regarding the series Bleach,at least that is what Antvasima told me.
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Their whole talk was based on soul king being able to flow souls,where does that come from???it's the shinigami job to maintain the balance by sending humans who had died and become souls into society hence keeping the balance,how does that have to do with yhwach and soul king???
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I recommend just dropping it. It isn't worth getting into.
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Just wait till the Novel finishes. It's been talking about the Soul King and has explained how his powers work and what he actually does. It may reveal more later as there are another two novels most likely coming out.
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Also, please forgive me if that was already discussed (or debunked)
https://i.imgur.com/s4XoO1d.png
Im sorry, but the darkness coming out of everywhere and swallowing Ichigo dont seem like souls to me :/
https://i.imgur.com/s4XoO1d.png
Im sorry, but the darkness coming out of everywhere and swallowing Ichigo dont seem like souls to me :/
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No those are not souls,merely his power.
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Why do we need to wait for the novels tho??the manga has already given us what we need,the soul king has enough power to hold the realms of bleach,yhwach absorbed him and gained excess power,strong enough to hold the realms of bleach.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
>As for those saying soul king job is to balance souls that's based on a fan wrong logic fan translation,the original manga says that soul king reiatsu was sealed and used to stabilize the world's in bleach from destruction.
from the scans you see they are clearly different, one is flow souls which is the fan translation,the other says that soul king holds the worlds so that souls can flow in and out,it doesn't say soul king deals with the souls that's the shinigami Job's.
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I made a thread about scaling Resistances through Blut Vene for Quincy that have superior Blut/Reiatsu. Give your opinions when you can.
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I don't know where it comes from, but it doesn't affect his rating or AP since his AP is based on Toshiro.
I understand and agree that Gin and Tosen are above most Espada though since we have direct feats and scaling to back that up.
I understand and agree that Gin and Tosen are above most Espada though since we have direct feats and scaling to back that up.
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I know it doesn't affect his rating, but if I see justifications on profiles that appear to be opinion pieces or not based on evidence at all then I'll point it out.
Also IMade, Gin's rating is based on matching Ichigo and wounding Aizen - not fighting Toshiro.
Also IMade, Gin's rating is based on matching Ichigo and wounding Aizen - not fighting Toshiro.
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That's not right, I edited Gin's profile for his Bankai upgrade. He was listed as 7-A due to scaling back to Toshiro's 7-A calc.Damage3245 said:
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Well, somebody must have changed it back because Toshiro isn't mentioned there for his AP.
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It still makes sense, but it's a long chain. It's Gin scaling to Ichigo who scales above Toshiro's calc.
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According to Toshiro's profile, he also scales to Gin.
That bit could probably be cropped out since he has the Storm calc linked there.
I take it you don't have a problem with me removing the Starrk line from Gin's profile?
That bit could probably be cropped out since he has the Storm calc linked there.
I take it you don't have a problem with me removing the Starrk line from Gin's profile?
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None, I can see the scaling to Starrk if someone tries to scale Gin to Ukitake or Shunsui in a way, but right now the exact wording would be wrong. I'd prefer a direct or scaled connection.
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Also, how much exactly does Buto Renjin increase his power? Because if it increases him be a tier than that looks like it would make him High 7-A, not 6-C.
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It's an order of magnitude greater, he's barely 6-C iirc.
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Wait, that technique makes him ten times stronger? That seems kinda weird.
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It makes only Buto Renjin stronger and twice as fast as his Bankai's speed. Nothing else is affected about him.
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Yhwach has more inconsistencies than any other character in Bleach.
His Schrift allows him to understand and nullify any abilities, but he can't nullify a Getsuga Tensho - one of the simplest abilities in the series?
His Schrift allows him to understand and nullify any abilities, but he can't nullify a Getsuga Tensho - one of the simplest abilities in the series?
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Yhwach is never hit nor injured by a Getsuga after activating the Almighty. Pretty sure Verlux and I even had this discussion in the WWW Discord with you in it.
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The Getsuga isn't what did the damage, it was Ichigo swinging his blade. Ichigo can use Getsuga to amp his sword swings and it's what he did there.
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Responding with a meme.....that's some top tier debating right there.
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Are you reading the scan and my comments, right? It literally says it's not a discharged Getsuga, but a sword swing with the power of a Getsuga. Getsuga is amping the sword strike, it's not doing the damage.
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