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Should Okoye get a Midnight Angels key?
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Spoiler Discussion Thread
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The staff had a larger bend in Infinitywar. If u slow down the clip it consistantly had that bend as Parker pointed out.
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Bruh
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Who is Namor hooking up with in Talokan? Anyone he wants ... ?
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I rewatched T’Chala vs M’Baku. Idk if the Face Mask was the specially treated “Jabari Wood” as well, but T’Chala does crack it with an elbow strike. As far as his spear goes, I count at least twice that T’Chala wacked it away with his Vibranium Short Spear.
I’m going to rewatch the ending fight when Jabari entered the fight with the Border Tribe just to see if any other direct feats exist.
I’m going to rewatch the ending fight when Jabari entered the fight with the Border Tribe just to see if any other direct feats exist.
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Eh the statement was from mbaku’s actor anyway so it’s not that big of a deal. Namor still had statements of being on par with hulk and Thor from WoG
“[There’s] no equal in terms of his capabilities, being able to breathe underwater and breathe at high altitudes and walk around on land," Coogler explained. "He’s incredibly strong, he’s as strong as Thor, and if he’s around enough water he can be as strong as the Hulk.”
https://www.syfy.com/ryan-coogler-namor-strong-hulk-thor
“[There’s] no equal in terms of his capabilities, being able to breathe underwater and breathe at high altitudes and walk around on land," Coogler explained. "He’s incredibly strong, he’s as strong as Thor, and if he’s around enough water he can be as strong as the Hulk.”
https://www.syfy.com/ryan-coogler-namor-strong-hulk-thor
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Considering the fact that he brought up Hulk makes it sketchy for Namor to scale to L&T Thor when Hulk hasn't shown any feats to be comparable to L&T Thor yet
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A statement by someone with no creative control over Thor and implying Hulk > Thor, when the movies show Pre-Awakening Thor being comparable to Hulk and Post-Awakening Thor as more powerful
I disagree with using Ryan Coogler's statement. I'm okay with using M'Baku's
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Who says we need to use L&T Thor? Going off of mbaku’s stament we could probably place him around IW or endgame thor or hulk considering mbaku hasn’t seen current thor
Not really, in ragnarok hulk was holding back agianst Thor and rocked his shit when he grabbed his hammer, and while he did surpass him after he awakened. In infinity war loki thought hulk could take on thanos despite him seeing him body thor.
Eh, that’s fine
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Coogler is co-writer, thus his statement is equally as valid. Although only in regards to the BP section of Marvel. Given as Base Thor has shown to be comparable to Hulk (And an Argument can be made that “maybe” Hulk Edges out Base Thor slightly as of Ragnarok (Not L&T)),we can say that Water Amped doesn’t give him a “huge” boost. The “Hulk” part of Coogler’s statement can be disregarded as “opinion” as it comes off more as Coogler believes Hulk is stronger than Thor, but Thor as a baseline is certainly valid imo.
Edit: If anything, if Coogler Believes Hulk is stronger than Thor, this would imply Ragnarok Version and not L&T because there is no “there”, there.
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Proof?
Because angrier = stronger. Hulk was more pissed off with Thor at that point in the fight
We don't know whether Loki saw Thanos beat Thor or not
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ya and he still scales above him for that
Loki say thanos drag Thor’s limp body around like it’s nothing. I think he can put two and two together
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"but he also doesn't want Thor to ruin things for him"
ya and he still scales above him for that
Loki say thanos drag Thor’s limp body around like it’s nothing. I think he can put two and two together
Thor also wouldn't want to kill Hulk, just knock Banner out of him. And Hulk can't hold back his durability, and Thor could still harm Hulk
Yes, but only with rage. That's literally part of his current tiering
Loki saw Thanos standing next to Thor's body and then pick it up. Nothing suggests he saw the actual fight. And nothing explicitly suggests he thinks Hulk can beat Thanos either. He just says "We have a Hulk" and lets Hulk fight Thanos while he helps Thor
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Ya ko him, actually he can seeing as his stats are dependent on his rage
Ya so this point of discussion shouldn’t matter
in the opening scene his in the middle of what’s left of the Asgardian slaughter, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have seen the fight. And even then his already encountered thanos before so I don’t see why he wouldn’t have an idea of his capabilities. Considering how he talks about him as if his there big gun, I’d say other wise
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Random observation: It's rather odd how many statements from different directors suggest that Hulk is still as strong as or stronger than Thor post-Ragnarok, despite the movies themselves not really supporting that. I think Coogler's statement is the third such instance at this point.
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And he was getting more and more pissed off during the fight. Yet Thor could still fight and harm Hulk
Because we don't know where Loki was DURING the fight. He could've been hiding somewhere else in the ship and then come out there after the fight.
While Thanos was chilling on his chair looking into space? Suuuuuure
All he says is that "We have a Hulk" and proceeds to save Thor from Thanos' grip while he was distracted
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He seemed to be the same lvls of pissed tbh. That doesn’t really mean much tbh, just because Thor can hurt hulk with a giant war hammer doesn’t null that hulk would be stronger then him.
Why would he hide during the entire fight then come out to get his cheeks clapped?
Ya cuz I’m sure the arrogant mischief god would just listen to a dude in a chair
ya because maybe hulk is more relevant then Thor agianst thanos.
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And his punches
Because he doesn't want to get involved in the fighting and come out when things have mostly calmed down
With Thor being the broken bleeding mess that he was at that point, sure
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OkAnd his punches
Because he doesn't want to get involved in the fighting and come out when things have mostly calmed down
With Thor being the broken bleeding mess that he was at that point, sure
So then he would still need to see the fight to now it calmed down
And the fact that Loki saw Thor and hulks fight and didn’t seem to believe he would get rag dolled
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Can the feat where Namor slams his spear and it causes a shockwave be calculated?
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Well he really wanted to kill Shuri
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Probably but I don’t think it we’ll yield high results
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I watched the movie again last night. Going purely by onscreen feats:
Namor definitely busted apart huge chunks of vibranium from those vibranium ships with brute force by swinging his vibranium staff that lacks sonic power.
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Vibranium did not visibly fly apart onscreen in Sokovia after Thor's gigantic megatons Mjolnir strike. At best Thor cracked the vibranium spire, but even that is not visible onscreen. Only Thanos, who at the time was much stronger than Thor, also completely destroyed vibranium onscreen in Cap's shield with brute force by using his double blade.
T'Challa is not shown busting vibranium from vibranium ships with brute force in BP 1. He is stated and shown using a vibranium sonic hand cannon. When Everrett Ross shoots down the ships in BP 1 he also does so with sonic blasts, which Grio states in the moment and as evidenced by the same blue energy from the ships. Shuri tells Everett before the fighting that she developed sonics to destabilize vibranium.
So going solely by onscreen feats, Namor's vibranium feats are top-tier MCU strength.
Namor definitely busted apart huge chunks of vibranium from those vibranium ships with brute force by swinging his vibranium staff that lacks sonic power.
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Vibranium did not visibly fly apart onscreen in Sokovia after Thor's gigantic megatons Mjolnir strike. At best Thor cracked the vibranium spire, but even that is not visible onscreen. Only Thanos, who at the time was much stronger than Thor, also completely destroyed vibranium onscreen in Cap's shield with brute force by using his double blade.
T'Challa is not shown busting vibranium from vibranium ships with brute force in BP 1. He is stated and shown using a vibranium sonic hand cannon. When Everrett Ross shoots down the ships in BP 1 he also does so with sonic blasts, which Grio states in the moment and as evidenced by the same blue energy from the ships. Shuri tells Everett before the fighting that she developed sonics to destabilize vibranium.
So going solely by onscreen feats, Namor's vibranium feats are top-tier MCU strength.
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Already talked about this earlier. It's not a Tier 6 feat
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Pretty much, I mean maybe you can account for the amount of force his putting into the spear but that’s stretching it
. That said, Jabari wood is also implied to have pierced Vibranium Fabric.
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Okoye is definitely getting stat boost.
And M’bakunis definitely getting a durability feat for taking that bloodlusted punch from Namor.
in the of the team, the dora were blocking and dodging bullets at close range, and while standing still/minimal movement.
And M’bakunis definitely getting a durability feat for taking that bloodlusted punch from Namor.
in the of the team, the dora were blocking and dodging bullets at close range, and while standing still/minimal movement.
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He isn't really going to scale to Namor's AP to his durability considering how casual it was for Namor
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He should scale durability wise. Namor was striking to kill.
and it broke all the way through his Jabari wood armor, which has durability feats against vibranium weapons.
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Then it would only scale to his armor, not him physically. Although there was doubts in this thread about the Jabari wood being actually scaled to vibranium. But either way, the guy was practically one-shotted by him
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She should get a Midnight Angels key since that armour increases her stats and gives her flight
