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Black Clover: Top & God Tiers CRT
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PrinceofPein
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you cant read?
yes their entire existence is magic, they are that strong cause of magic
now please scans a heart that can regenerate and talk is not made of magic
So magic doesnt boost their physical stats?
Omg,
please tell me what mana skin does and what will happen if something that negates magic and mana comes n contact with it
Thats a scan that says his large amount of magic keeps him.protected constantly hence why they couldn't hurt him
And many more scans that shows magic boost physicals which I can't be looking for but this
And literally the entire black clover verse, reasons why someone with smaller magic will always be weaker (except u circumvent this with skills and hax, like magna and some others e.t.c.)
But yes the more your magic the stronger you will be henceR
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Epsilon_R
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See? An unbacked up claim.
Prove that the devil's entire existence is magic at once. This is such a dumb claim to make when Liebe, a devil without any magic, exists...
Mana boost physical abilities when it's used as such. Mana Skin is something that needs to be activated, if you can prove he was using Mana Skin when tanking Licht's attack's I'll give you that.
Protected from an average Mage Spell. Is Licht an average Mage now???
Again, we don't see Zagred activating reinforcement Magic nor Mana Skin
That's only about Magic Amount...
PrinceofPein
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cant u read???
anyway scans the heart that can regenerate and talk is not magical
u asked for scans of magic boosting durability and i sent it
oh u *******, is a follower of licht in the same level as zagred??
his magic far surpasses everyone there hence all their attacks were useless against him except asta's anti magic
like you totally mssed the point of the scan that large level of magic provides durablity, that guys level is so high average mages cant scratch hm but you went ahead to miss the entire point and strwmann my argument by saying something dull
in terms of magic level which provides durability btw
zagred >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>licht >>>>>>>>> his henchman
again he doesnt need to his level of magic is greater than everyone there
which improves durability and boost physicals
please pardon my language but you must be extremely dull to say magic doesnt boost durability, like you have no excuse for saying something like that.
i wonder why people with higher level of magic and mana are way stronger than people with smaller level.
lke literaly a class was created based on this in the black clover series
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Love this argument
prove it
Prove he was using mana skin or something like that to increase his dura.
lol yes his magic protects him from an average mage attack that would be Significantly weaker than his physical durability. Unless you think his durability is = to average mage spells...
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Did you just ignore this post??? You ask people can they read CAN YOU???
PrinceofPein
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prove that they use magic for everything???
you made a claim magic cant increase durability, and i proved it can
not here to argue rubbish, i will wait for the OP at least he thinks and say reasonable things that can be backed up
PrinceofPein
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you literally took my words out of context and expect me to reply you ffs
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Out of context??? THATS LITERALLY WHAT YOU SAID. YOU MADE THE CLAIM.
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Using magic for everything =/= Being entirely made of magic
It can, only if you use those techniques. Now you need to prove he used said techniques
PrinceofPein
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question: What makes you think zagred heart has magic
me: he is a demon his entire existence is (based on) magic, lke the heart can talk and it regenerates but the heart has no magic?
and somehow you took a sentence out neglecting the question that was asked/
and please i am waiting for you to tell me how zagred heart can talk and regenerate if it doesnt have magic.
i hate having roundabouts argument with people saying dull things
PrinceofPein
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take it out of context are we?
except this guy wasnt using any technique, his magic power was just hgher
please if you wanna wank, do it elsewhere
from here on out i will ignore anything not the OP
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I never said the heart had 0 magic. You made the claim that the heart was made of magic. Having magic =\= being made of magic
So prove the heart is made up of magic with a statement from the manga.
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I Agree For Zagred has Magic on his Whole Body, and His heart is the Core for sure.
Epsilon_R
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He can talk because of Zagred's word magic. He can create anything he wants by speaking, his heart was only able to regenerate his body because Zagred created a mouth on it.
Having magic and being made of magic are two different things. We have no proof of the latter
PrinceofPein
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zagred regenerated his entire body from his heart, but to some ** ** his heart hasnothing to do with magic
PrinceofPein
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but somehow must have read this wrong
PrinceofPein
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didnt exactly insult anyone
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^ his argument has been debunked numerous times it’s clear he just wants to go in a circle.
There’s no point in arguing with him he won’t prove his claim that the heart is made up of 100% magic.
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Bro, relax
Epsilon_R
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Yes, I never said his heart doesn't have magic, I said it isn't magical (aka being made of magic).
PrinceofPein
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none of my argument was debunked lmao
like not one, please mention of them that has been debunked
tell me how anti magic doesnt negate durability or how asta physicals scales above licht and everyone combined
PrinceofPein
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this is a freaking lie tho, i said asta sword works cause of the anti magic and that was your reply
the author literally said it was cause of the anti magic
please provide scans
PrinceofPein
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yeah sure
but i hate t when people put words in my mouth and then take it out of context for their evil use.
i mean the scan literally said asta can kill zagred simply because of anti magic.
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And how does that relate to Durability Negation, when it's just Regeneration Negation?
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You prove it it’s not on me to prove a negative.
Learn what the burden of proof is.
yes we are completely evil for making you prove your claims.
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Question: If everyone who uses magic is physically weak in the BC universe but uses magic to make their bodies stronger to tank attacks then why does asta get an AP tier when he hurts someone using magic to make themselves stronger? Asta would probably only scale in his black forms to AP because he physically gets stronger without using mana but in base he shouldn't get a tier right only durability negation because of anti magic right?
PrinceofPein
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argue with the scan that said asta can damage zagred heart cause of anti magic not me
He said zagred heart has no magic and i replied that how can demons that their entire existence is magic (in this context what they do) is not magical
so zagred heart speaking was by using ki?
or zagred heart regenerating is also by nen?
i have nothing to prove and i dont mean that demons were birn through magic, they probably have sex (would be a sight to behold_)
if you cant take a joke, please drink a beer
PrinceofPein
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well asta has always been physcally strong but yes most of his attacks and literally everything against high tiers and god tiers is anti magic
the same way we dont scale the wizards to their forms without magic we cant scale asta to his form without anti magic boost.
since anti magic is also a form of energy and it has shown its ability to boost asta physicals also
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There is no durability negation hax involved, though. Black Divider doesn’t have that because Zagred’s heart isn’t magical, therefore he’d need to be stronger than Conquering Eon with Black Divider.
You’ve regurgitated the same scan ad nauseum despite others showing why this doesn’t prove your claim.yes
PrinceofPein
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but literally stated that anti magic works against it?
how does anti magic work against something not magical??
it does tho, u havent debunked anythng so far
PrinceofPein
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u can start from 206 to get the full scenario
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