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You litteraly debunked none of what I said...KingOFG said:@Epsilon R
You don't know how to defend your points without using fallacies.
Kotodama Devil assuming that he could defend himself against Lumiere's blows doesn't make him comparable to the attack that Lumiere claimed to be unable to defend himself. Say that "both are demons, they should be comparable for that" is stupid on the same level as saying that "Gauche and Lumiere are both human and therefore they should be comparable too". Don't use fallacies, use arguments.
WTF are you saying? It does make WD comparable to Demon Licht because Lumière's blows were able to harm Licht. Unless you proves that Demon Licht's durability actually became weaker or is weaker than his AP in general, there's no reason for the Word Devil nor Lumiere to not scale.
Lumiere thinks he could defend himself against Licht's strongest attack at the first time, but literally in a second later he takes an opposite view of it. And yes the "block" means defend himself he saw this pretty clear.
Not at all, he is just questioning himself. "Can I block this" is litteraly the only thing he said about not tanking the attack, he never outright said that he can't block it. Also you are just assuming it means tanking the attack without any evidence. You haven't debunked this point.
Put that in your mind. Lumiere wasn't nerfied to the point of fall a single tier (Let's suppose he would have fall to 7-B, in theory he would have been left thousands times weaker since he at base would be Low 6-B). The only thing that supports your idea is the fact that his chest was bleeding, bleed is something normal when you go into battles. There is not even a mention of him being severely weakened in this scene. Again, drop this. It's the second time I've debunked this.
Put that in your mind: First, you don't need to fall of a tier to not be able to block an attack (Idek why you are using tiers to prove your point btw). Second, as I said earlier, we have no proof that block the attack actually means tanking it. And even if it does, we don't even know if he would actually be killed by the attack because not being able to block it doesn't mean he would be killed. Heck, it doesn't even mean he would be knocked out.
And Sure... Being mortally wounded is not enough is not being severely weakened, sure...
The real conclusion is: Only Licht should still Low 6-B with his Strongest Spell. No one scale to him.
Only Licht should still be Low 6-B tho. I think that has been well decided here. Most of people are agreeing with the downgrade.ShadowGun45 said:and then, will it be downgraded to 7-A or are we still considering the Low 6-B feat ?
But you're pretty much confusing two things. Everyone agrees with downgrading, but also that the Low 6-B is valid.KingOFG said:The majority here agree to we apply the downgrade? If yes I'll start edit the profiles tomorrow when i come back from my job.
I already did it several times. You will not win an discussion using flabby fallacies to try to belittle my point.Epsilon R said:Like you have actually explained them
I ask you to read the thread again if you think only Epsilon thinks no one should scale to that feat.KingOFG said:@Ionliosite
Yes, the Low 6-B is valid for Licht and only him. Mirch, me and even Ant agreed with that. The only one who is opposing this using desperate fallacies is Epsilon.
I'm pretty sure that 8 is more than 3Ionliosite said:I'm pretty sure "The majority here" doesn't agree with that.
Eh, you're right on that. Honestly, I think that a few can scale since I find it weird to believe that the Demon Licht drops literally tiers after he finally stops moving with no prior damage at all. Who I think scales, I'll have to look over a bit before I have any suggestions for thatKingOFG said:Duedate disagrees with the feat being incalculable, he said nothing about scaling
Not exactly, he was in front of the kingdomDuedate8898 said:I mean, but he's in the Clover Kingdom? He would naturally get hit by his own attack since it's an explosion.
Seems like a biased list. Ant and and Dragonmaster never gave their agreement.KingOFG said:Agreeing: DemonGodMitchAubin, Ryuga21, Siegfired10, Antvasima, Ah Gou, Shadowgun 45, The Prince of Counters, Lenne Charlotte Typhoon, Dragonmasterxyz.
Disagreeing: Epsilon R, Ionliosite.