Of course it’s all just speculations, it’s as much as a speculation as Yuno and Nacht betting on Yami and Asta. They do have good reasons, both are capable of negating durability, reaching the devil heart and destroying it. Yuno definitely can’t neg durability, Natch can’t either.
Nacht watched them via Unite Mode Felis’ magic which lets him watch the events of others without actually being there. So he definitely knows what they were doing in the underwater temple and shadow palace.
Because this is what Anti-Magic cancels out, even against stronger opponents. Any other means of durability negation makes no sense.
All of these things result from some kind of magic negation, you know that right? Also, gaining the power to kill them doesn't need to be durability negation.
Yami being superior to Asta isn't even true. He only managed to damage Lucifero after doing a Combo Spell with Nacht, which was in effect when he hurt him. Asta is the only one that could damage Lucifero completely on his own.
Just to clarify, I'm saying that Incomplete Devil Union Asta is also superior to Yami, not just True Devil Union Asta
Right, I agree with this as well (lowkey forgot he about TDU even though it was just released like this week? lmao)
Oh ho!
The first part just adds onto the fact that Yami's stronger than he's ever been, which is 100% true. The second part is not usable because he's being amped by Nacht via their Kids' Playground combo spell.
I think context is also very important. Lucifero was very dismissive of Yami and wasn't trying to kill him, as he even says "I'll deal with you later," whereas he was utterly furious at Asta for drawing blood from him, so it's reasonable to say he was putting more power into his punch against Asta than against Yami.
Wait, what? The kid's playground spell amped Yami? how? The spell was only crafted for stealth and diversion purposes which Yami took advantage of to strike Lucifero. Well... Explain.
Yep, Definitely.
No,
Deceived explained the first part, so I'll focus on this: He was just going to finish off a heavily injured Nacht, compared to being pissed off at a completely undamaged Asta.
I don't get it...
He was also pissed off at Nacht regardless.
You should add the scan where Asta says it doesn't matter how strong Lucifero's magic is. It's in a similar vein to Yami's Dimension Slash, which is durability negation.
Lilith and Naamah becoming intangible were able to avoid sword slashes from Asta. He used Demon Destroyer's causality manipulation to undo their magic.
Occam's Razor would dictate that his magic power is enough to counter Presence of the Demon King. It would require more proof to say that his stars are using power null similar to Black Moon.
Nacht can already do this with Union Mode: Canis, just on a lesser scale.
Not even close
Oh, you mean this one?
Meh, I have a plan b where he erased Nacht's magic that lacked substance
Yessiirrr!! Still needs to be added to his profile
Oh, you mean when Gimodelo and Plumede were saying they were surging with power? That should be an effect going supreme devil mode and not the kids' playground itself: Using two mid devils makes Natch's power rise to supreme devil level so the power surge those two devils felt is only natural.
That doesn’t make sense though. Both of them had already been used in a double devil union. Neither of them should be surprised by the power if that was the only reason.
It's a combo spell, which by definition combines the magic powers of both users
Wait what?? I don’t think so.. They’ve never been fused together before.
Not those two in particular together but both have been used in other double devil unions. There’s no reason for this form to be significantly stronger then the others so them being shocked by the power doesn’t make sense unless something else was boosting them.
Ohhhh okay
Wrapping my head around this is difficult tbh.
