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If I had a nickel for every time a magic and wizard based WSJ series reached Low 5-B, I'd have 2 Nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.Wow, small planet for BC
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If I had a nickel for every time a magic and wizard based WSJ series reached Low 5-B, I'd have 2 Nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.Wow, small planet for BC
I just wanted to make that joke.....Y’all know the OP hasn’t updated with the proper corrected calc yet right
Just so you know this doesn’t really scale to anyone, because he was going to create a chain reaction with the mama vein beneath the country.Supporting calc here, we can probably use this while waiting for the other one to conclude. Worst case this becomes a supporting calc. So I’ll start updating the OP.
Scale to that sword as that sword was needed or else he could have done it with a normal ass swordJust so you know this doesn’t really scale to anyone, because he was going to create a chain reaction with the mama vein beneath the country.
No. It scales to the sword + the mana vein, which you cannot quantify. So no it doesn’t scale to the sword either.Scale to that sword as that sword was needed or else he could have done it with a normal ass sword
Just so you know this doesn’t really scale to anyone, because he was going to create a chain reaction with the mama vein beneath the country.
Arc kinda has a point. It'd be like shooting a gas pipe in a building to ignite it and make it explode. That isn't a street level feat because of the bullet, it needed the gas pipe too.
Yeah I still disagree for the reason I stated. Hitting a mana vein, which naturally would be filled with mana, is 100% amping the attack beyond its normal AP.
I’m not taking your unbacked claims at face value Arnold. Gimme some time stamps so I can see where your interpretation comes from.I mean everything I said can’t be explained away via Occam’s razor. The fact that it’s also called earth vein is enough not to invoke it.
So the fact that we don’t see any mana after Asta negates them means it all came from a source (the sword), not from the earth.
Who said I’m satisfied? The chipotle was delicious btw thanks for asking. I grabbed a chicken and bean bowl.Glad you’re satisfied. I hope that chipotle is trash since you put me through all that work getting scans.
Yeah seeing the scans offsite, Conrad specifically states it is a vein of mana. Which explicitly denotes mana being within the vein. Just as a glass of wine is a glass filled with wine, that vein is filled with mana.
Veins of the earth as in they find their origins in the planet yes. That’s entirely different from being veins of mana and does not debunk the notion that veins of mana are filled with mana. Just as a glass of an establishment being a glass of wine doesn’t debunk the notion it is filled with wine. Also, Asta stopping the dude from using the sword doesn’t prove your premise either. Conrad still has to use the sword to complete the chain reaction, if he cannot do that, the vein of mana will simply lay dormant.And like I told you just before you changed your mind. it doesn’t literally mean there must be something within said container before an “of” is applied to describe what that contain is. Just as a wine glass is still a glass of wine in a colloquial sense since it once contained wine doesn’t mean a vein of mana can’t be described as such even if it once contained mana.
you’ve seen the correct context. You’ve also seen it called “veins of the earth”. you’ve literally seen mana veins WITHOUT MANA. that makes my interpretation the correct one. All the mana within said “vein” came from a source, the imperial sword.
I think you actually brought up a great point. I just cross referenced the Japanese subtitles with the English (non CC) and Japanese specifically calls it "earth vein" not "mana veins" or "veins of mana"And like I told you just before you changed your mind. it doesn’t literally mean there must be something within said container before an “of” is applied to describe what that contain is. Just as a wine glass is still a glass of wine in a colloquial sense since it once contained wine doesn’t mean a vein of mana can’t be described as such even if it once contained mana.
you’ve seen the correct context. You’ve also seen it called “veins of the earth”. you’ve literally seen mana veins WITHOUT MANA. that makes my interpretation the correct one. All the mana within said “vein” came from a source, the imperial sword.
Veins of the earth as in they find their origins in the planet yes. That’s entirely different from being veins of mana and does not debunk the notion that veins of mana are filled with mana. Just as a glass of an establishment being a glass of wine doesn’t debunk the notion it is filled with wine. Also, Asta stopping the dude from using the sword doesn’t prove your premise either. Conrad still has to use the sword to complete the chain reaction, if he cannot do that, the vein of mana will simply lay dormant.
I think you actually brought up a great point. I just cross referenced the Japanese subtitles with the English (non CC) and Japanese specifically calls it "earth vein" not "mana veins" or "veins of mana"
Here in English, they're called veins of earth
and here in Japanese they're called "earth veins" and for reference 地脈 translates to earth vein mana「魔マナ」 wasn't mentioned once in the Japanese.
lol I'm no expert in Japanese., but if anything i've learned English translations sometimes botch the intention/translation hence why I often default to the original language for the proper context/wording. In short, I agree with you.WHUTTTT nice lol but still the context should’ve been clear. Arc initially understood that and simply changed his mind as soon as he saw Conrad calling it vein of mana.
Yes but of here is used to denote what is contained by the vein. Nothing here supports your random interpretation that vein of mana just means mana can run through it. Asta didn’t negate the mana veins either, he simply stopped Conrad from using the sword.Now you’re implying there is another context
of the preposition “of” aside from “it must contain this”. Why didn’t you say veins of the earth means it contains earth within it.
Obviously the answer is because “of” is simply used to express a relationship between two objects and that there are many different ways to contextualize it.
This is the context. veins of mana can not contain mana without a source, (the sword).
Asta negated the magic of the sword along with all the mana the sword provided within the veins.
Yes but of here is used to denote what is contained by the vein. Nothing here supports your random interpretation that vein of mana just means mana can run through it. Asta didn’t negate the mana veins either, he simply stopped Conrad from using the sword.
Yes he negated the sword. That is not the same as negating the power of the sword + the mana in the vein.I can’t tell if this is strawman at this point.
i never said Asta negates the mana vein. He didn’t negate the mana vein because there is no mana unless it comes from a source. Asta negated the mana from the source.
Asta literally says he negated the source and all the mana within the exposed vein vanished as you’ve seen in the earlier scan. He did not stop Conrad from using the sword, he merely defeated him before all the mana from the sword went throughout the kingdom and explode.
Yes he negated the sword. That is not the same as negating the power of the sword + the mana in the vein.
The mana isn’t disappearing. It’s just becoming dormant again. Mana can exist without being volatile. Not all mana is constantly in the state of exploding. That scan doesn’t prove what you’re claiming.Yes he negated the sword. The power of the sword is in the mana veins. The mana within the veins disappears right after cuz Asta negates the swords power.
The mana isn’t disappearing. It’s just becoming dormant again. Mana can exist without being volatile. Not all mana is constantly in the state of exploding. That scan doesn’t prove what you’re claiming.
No it simple doesn’t. The light disappearing just means it’s no longer volatile not that all the mana just disappeared.You see the magical energy shining it’s light through the exposed “veins”. So that light disappearing indicates there is no more energy within it.
Mana always exist in the form of pure shining energy regardless of if it’s used or not for literally anything. So yes it proves the power flowing within the veins came from the sword and that “of” was used in this context.
No it simple doesn’t. The light disappearing just means it’s no longer volatile not that all the mana just disappeared.
It’s not glowing prior to Conrad sticking his sword into a vein filled with mana.So prove how magical energy loses its light in a dormant state.
It’s not glowing prior to Conrad sticking his sword into a vein filled with mana.
Not at all, I have no interest in repeating myself. And that’s what we are doing rn, repeating our points over and over. So we can leave it up to staff votes, and I’ll clarify stuff if someone brings forth something new.Because the veins are covered by the earth which are later cracked as power flows through it. This isn’t a valid rebuttal.
Also Conrad has infused the earth veins with mana before and that flow re-constructed his fortress and allowed it fly. So if there was already mana within the veins, why was the arena still an arena and not a Flying Fortress? Is it because there is no power in the vein to make it a fortress?