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the **** is a gmc
Arc should just become a GMC at this point
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Arc should just become a GMC at this point
the **** is a gmc
Except it's very clearly due to Naalith's magic itself, as Nacht in that same sentence says their magic is "far too massive"And being "maddened by power" is an extremely weak argument even for a possible rating imagine for a solid one, I disagree with Naalith being above Elsdocia Asta.
I am in agreement with @CloverDragon03 regarding Asta and Elsdocia
Thats why you are the single BC supporter that deserves to live
This. Asta absorbed a shit ton of magic power thanks to the funny movie sword from what I saw, that should definitely have amped all his stats. IIRC his one black winged form has amped all his stats before and not just his one half, so I don't see why the funny movie sword amp would only amp like one arm.I find it ridiculous to say Asta wasn't amped because then that means he had this power with Black Divider the whole time and simply... never used it, against the guy trying to destroy the kingdom
Also I specifically noted that the calc was fine if the meteor really was stopped in one frame. I worded it like this because I didn't have good access to the movie at the time I evaluated itWill adjust the mass to the new calc
The problem itself is not that, but is using something that a character failed to say as an argument or now we're going to put Naalith above all the characters that Natch doesn't talk about their magic?Except it's very clearly due to Naalith's magic itself, as Nacht in that same sentence says their magic is "far too massive"
I find it ridiculous to say Asta wasn't amped because then that means he had this power with Black Divider the whole time and simply... never used it, against the guy trying to destroy the kingdom
This. Asta absorbed a shit ton of magic power thanks to the funny movie sword from what I saw, that should definitely have amped all his stats. IIRC his one black winged form has amped all his stats before and not just his one half, so I don't see why the funny movie sword amp would only amp like one arm.
Also I specifically noted that the calc was fine if the meteor really was stopped in one frame. I worded it like this because I didn't have good access to the movie at the time I evaluated it
Having seen it now, you're really better off just scaling Asta to the meteor's mass
Looking at the scene, it really doesn't seem that way noAre you saying it did happen or didn’t?
Looking at the scene, it really doesn't seem that way no
Nice, I agree with this and clovers scale
The amp really isnt explained, but considering he can swing the sword without his body breaking, it would indicate at some level (via newtons third law) that his body was amped. But regardless the sword enabled him to absorb the magic regardless, despite antimagic flowing throughout his entire body.The amp was specifically for the slash. It makes no sense for Asta to have magic when anti magic flows within him and most of his exterior.
The amp really isnt explained, but considering he can swing the sword without his body breaking, it would indicate at some level (via newtons third law) that his body was amped. But regardless the sword enabled him to absorb the magic regardless, despite antimagic flowing throughout his entire body.
Why would it make sense for Asta to be able to match Conrad’s strongest attack that requires him to kill himself to use it with power he just normally had? Unless he got a random unsupported amp out of nowhere- well ig he did say it’s time to surpass his limits before performing the feat. So ig he could have gotten a limit surpassing amp before slashing meteor. Hmmm, I’ll switch to neutral on scaling for now.Why must it apply to all across his body and not the left side of the body the magic from the sword covers? The anti magic still covered most of his body so it makes no sense for all of his body to be amped.
Asta swung his Demon Divider to stop the fall with one arm and the force from the meteor didn’t break that side of his body hence why I said the meteor feat applies to his form and not his Imperial Sword amped side. Conrad has also shown superiority by hurting Asta when he took control of the meteor and pushed it further.
Why would it make sense for Asta to be able to match Conrad’s strongest attack that requires him to kill himself to use it with power he just normally had? Unless he got a random unsupported amp out of nowhere-
well ig he did say it’s time to surpass his limits before performing the feat. So ig he could have gotten a limit surpassing amp before slashing meteor. Hmmm, I’ll switch to neutral on scaling for now.
well ig he did say it’s time to surpass his limits before performing the feat. So ig he could have gotten a limit surpassing amp before slashing meteor. Hmmm, I’ll switch to neutral on scaling for now.
I can't believe y'all actually see this as a viable scaling point, or just anything more than a simple catchphraseI wanted to add this to my side in the OP but I was told it doesn’t make sense. especially when Asta literally grows in strength like everytime he says it.
It's not as if saying the line spontaneously provides a massive amp, noDo we accept the surpassing limits thing as not legit throughout the entire manga?
I mean more like, characters getting amped mid combat. An example from another verse is like, Ichigo getting strong enough to go from not harming Kenpachi to defeating Kenpachi. Does stuff like that happen for Asta in BC?It's not as if saying the line spontaneously provides a massive amp, no
There was one time against Vetto but then nothing of that magnitude occurs againI mean more like, characters getting amped mid combat. An example from another verse is like, Ichigo getting strong enough to go from not harming Kenpachi to defeating Kenpachi. Does stuff like that happen for Asta in BC?
Hmmmmmm. I think I could see an argument for possibly scaling that version of black Asta to the feat. Since Asta has displayed immense accelerated development before, and it’s a common theme in BC.There was one time against Vetto but then nothing of that magnitude occurs again
Lol no to the zero G stuff. I’ve already addressed that as you can “float” in low earth orbit with experiencing literally no gravity.Non supporter of the verse here
Just wanted to say that the feat does take place in zero G
I saw yall arguing about that above and some where arguing that it wasn't
Also about the LS, I see no reason why you can't just divide the time it took for the entire scene to play out as the minimum time it took for Asta to stop it
It'd still upgrade the calc even if we assumed it took the whole 3 minute timeframe of the scene including flashbacks
Yeah I'm asking if anyone has a source of what height that occurs atLol no to the zero G stuff. I’ve already addressed that as you can “float” in low earth orbit with experiencing literally no gravity.
Lol no to the zero G stuff. I’ve already addressed that as you can “float” in low earth orbit with experiencing literally no gravity.
It can technically occur at any height. The mechanism behind it is the fictitious centrifugal force. But it’s easy to do, even more so for superhumans, at heights just above the mesosphereYeah I'm asking if anyone has a source of what height that occurs at
It could be used instead of what is currently being used
Wait you did? I must’ve completely missed that. Like I said I’m not in a good headspace. Lemme see.
Point 2.Alright so there are couple things wrong with that calc.
1) Meteors don't start burning up until they breach the mesosphere. Don't believe me, believe NASA. So no that bitch aint 545 km in the air, it's less than 90 km away, top of the mesosphere is around that high up.
2) Conrad was not floating in outerspace experiencing no gravity. Not only is he disintegrated upon defeat, but we literally see the bits of the meteor that blew up, even the bits that flew away from the planet, fly back down to earth. Furthermore, you can "float" in "low" earth orbit without being in technical outerspace. IRL satellites do it all the time, so floating around for a little bit is nowhere near proof of being above the thermosphere whatsoever.
I'm going to recalc this feat. This proposed calc is based upon a horrendously inaccurate assumption.
Edit: Once I do, I'll make a calc group thread to discuss which calc should be used, since this is more of a scaling thread.