BLACK CLOVER P&A CRT: MANA (PART 1)

[Epsilon_R]

Bump

 

[Digital_Franz]

I agree with Dereck regarding NEP. Additionally, I also disagree with Soul Manipulation for Mereoleona. All she does is resurrect them. In the scan I believe Morris is surprised that it is a Resurrection and not Necromency as Mereoleona's next words note.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Bump

We haven’t finished our priv discussion on the OP update

 

[Joshyyy_64]

Once again, I agree cause I already have context.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I agree

5-A when

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Alright lets wrap this up.

 

[CloverDragon03]

All she does is resurrect them. In the scan I believe Morris is surprised that it is a Resurrection and not Necromency as Mereoleona's next words note.

This is just straight up wrong. Her men are dead, she even goes on about how dying's not an excuse to skip out on a fight

 

[Digital_Franz]

This is just straight up wrong. Her men are dead, she even goes on about how dying's not an excuse to skip out on a fight

Just Resurrection. No need for Soul Manipulation to have Resurrection and with enough stamina she can just do it at will.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Just Resurrection. No need for Soul Manipulation to have Resurrection and with enough stamina she can just do it at will.

She's not resurrecting anyone though. They're dead. Plain and simple

 

[Digital_Franz]

She's not resurrecting anyone though. They're dead. Plain and simple

OK then Necromancy. I thought she brought them back to life.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Agree with Mereoleona section (And just to be clear it's Mana based Intangibility, which I suppose makes it abstract too but the point was that it's > souls), and I also agree with the pnull layers as well as the edited green section (which would be better if it had scans btw)

It's about time this crt get concluded ngl

 

[AstaDragon123]

which I suppose makes it abstract

Mana is abstract?

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Mana is abstract?

Yes, Mana exists beyond any physical sense and is the fundamental aspect that shapes all magic which includes the world of Glamor which is made of dreams and is stated to be a concept, and Rouge which is made with Vanessa's mana and tissue with the red thread of destiny (What is Law , destiny, probability , cause-effect and concept)

 

[Xinsignia1]

I agree with Asta’s section in green and would recommend the linked the scans to illustrate the context.

I also agree Mereoleona's intangibility (which is mana based) as well as the general power null layers, looks good to me.

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

Replace inorganic Physiology and Intangibility for Mereleona with Incorporealty

It covers both and is more accurate

 

[Epsilon_R]

Bump

 

[Joshyyy_64]

Thought we was gon wrap this up

 

[Joshyyy_64]

Bump

 

[KingTempest]

I am not interested in this thread bec i have to get up to date with BC but I saw something that caught my attention.

First of all NEP Type 5 doesn't exist, it would be NEP Aspect 5. There can't be an NEP without nature, whether 1, 2 or 3. Asta does not qualify for any nature since he's not nonexistent at any level. In my view mana doesn't qualify for Info 2 and therefore wouldn't qualify as a Type 5 Aspect in NEP. Based on the same description of Info 2 and what is provided by the OP there is no evidence of the ability here and many of the feats shown are due to changes in the user's soul but someone else will take care of the Info 2 part, that's all from my side.

Also
Law Manipulation: (Becoming Mana itself can only be possible by overcoming the world's natural laws)
The scan showed here has nothing to do with Law Manip.

Outside of these, this is fine

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Thanks thanks

 

[Epsilon_R]

Thanks thanks

Now I think you need to bring evidence of Asta having NEP by not having mana and ask Dereck if that's enough

 

[Epsilon_R]

It's fine if we apply the rest though, right?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Now I think you need to bring evidence of Asta having NEP by not having mana and ask Dereck if that's enough

I have changed the OP on that already. Dereck needed Aspect and Nature

 

[Epsilon_R]

I have changed the OP on that already. Dereck needed Aspect and Nature

Evidence without scans may as well not be evidence at all, and there's no scans for that part.

 

[AstaDragon123]

Bump.

 

[Theglassman12]

Gonna respond to the layered hax stuff since it was requested.

The sealing stuff looks good.

I can barely read the first scan for the magic stuff, but aside from that, it looks fine. Same with the remaining layers stuff.

 

[AstaDragon123]

Oh.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Mereoleona's section has been applied, I will be applying the Layers soon

 

[KingArthur561]

Need to change mereoleona intangibility to incorporeal. intangibility still has a physical body but incorporeal doesn't have a physical body, just made of soul, energy, or abstract

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Mereoleona's "almost Mana " form should have elemental intangibility, and her full mana form should be done in a separate topic after the terminology topics.

 

[Epsilon_R]

The thread is already over, not point in arguing