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BIG Fate Extra additions (mainly Extella) + upgrade for the tier 2.
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Memory Manipulation is fine then.
Moving on:
Having re-looked over Archimedes video, he was definitely still injured by Altera's attacks so it can't be said for sure that he was resisting the spatial hax or still being cut by it.
Bathory's stuff is all fine
Iskander's stuff - his voice lines imply that Altera did actually canonically hit him, but he also died at the end by the looks of it so IDK if I'd exactly say he resisted the hits or just got injured like normal.
Giles stuff - is all good except for the mind resistance which I'll wait for, though I think his mental pollution skill means that is already on his profile.
Astolfo's stuff - eh I feel like the moon he went to was just part of the World's texture, same way the Venus Ishtar goes to isn't the literal planet Venus but the Venus from the Age of the Gods. Dimensional travel is fine.
Jeanne's stuff - again, she was clearly injured by Altera's attacks so we can't say she was resisting.
Moving on:
Having re-looked over Archimedes video, he was definitely still injured by Altera's attacks so it can't be said for sure that he was resisting the spatial hax or still being cut by it.
Bathory's stuff is all fine
Iskander's stuff - his voice lines imply that Altera did actually canonically hit him, but he also died at the end by the looks of it so IDK if I'd exactly say he resisted the hits or just got injured like normal.
Giles stuff - is all good except for the mind resistance which I'll wait for, though I think his mental pollution skill means that is already on his profile.
Astolfo's stuff - eh I feel like the moon he went to was just part of the World's texture, same way the Venus Ishtar goes to isn't the literal planet Venus but the Venus from the Age of the Gods. Dimensional travel is fine.
Jeanne's stuff - again, she was clearly injured by Altera's attacks so we can't say she was resisting.
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In Orlando Furioso, the Moon was just a reflection of the Earth, where ideas and concepts would be present, and not an actual celestial body in outer space. In a way, he was still on Earth. Don't know how it was in the Nasuverse.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if Servants were able to survive in Outer Space.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if Servants were able to survive in Outer Space.
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I doesn't have others scans for the hax on this computer, so I'll just explain the points which were asked to have more info:
Resistance to Altera's EE/Space Manip: Being injured doesn't mean they don't have a resistance. If they weren't able to resist they would just being instantly sliced in half or erased. Tamamo's scans isn't gameplay and everyone mentionned with this resistance canonically fought Altera and was hit by her.
Power Modification [Regalia]- We don't have many info about it, but it mainly restrains Hakuno from controlling Altera and more obligate him to be "her prisonner"
Regalia being able to control Moon Cell: The regalia is the key of the Moon Cell and the "Royal Authority" which make the user able to fully control it, it's what make the clairvoyance stuff and others possible. Hakuno obtained it after the Holy Grail War. It's also why Velber's forces wanted it.
Mind and Soul Manipulation [Regalia]: Hakuno divided the regalia in three and also divided his mind, soul, and body with it, the main plot of Extella is basically every side having one Hakuno on their side.
Conceptual Manip [Altera]: The Sword of Mars is the sword of the same god who's the embobidment of war, so I think "possibly Conceptual Manip" is still fine.
Life Manipulation [Altera]: Seems to be passive, we don't have many info except what she said. She basically was here, and dino became big and their lifeforce was distorded.
Nero Venus' powers: We don't have more info, she severed the link between Velber and Altera (creating Altera Larva) and used dimensionnal stuff.
Tamamo's luck: No more info.
Time Lock: Maybe "limited Fate Manip" then? He can't use it instantly, but he seems to be able to use it pretty freely.
Iskandar's summoning: His warriors just appear like how Bucephalus did in Fate/Zero.
Resistance to Altera's EE/Space Manip: Being injured doesn't mean they don't have a resistance. If they weren't able to resist they would just being instantly sliced in half or erased. Tamamo's scans isn't gameplay and everyone mentionned with this resistance canonically fought Altera and was hit by her.
Power Modification [Regalia]- We don't have many info about it, but it mainly restrains Hakuno from controlling Altera and more obligate him to be "her prisonner"
Regalia being able to control Moon Cell: The regalia is the key of the Moon Cell and the "Royal Authority" which make the user able to fully control it, it's what make the clairvoyance stuff and others possible. Hakuno obtained it after the Holy Grail War. It's also why Velber's forces wanted it.
Mind and Soul Manipulation [Regalia]: Hakuno divided the regalia in three and also divided his mind, soul, and body with it, the main plot of Extella is basically every side having one Hakuno on their side.
Conceptual Manip [Altera]: The Sword of Mars is the sword of the same god who's the embobidment of war, so I think "possibly Conceptual Manip" is still fine.
Life Manipulation [Altera]: Seems to be passive, we don't have many info except what she said. She basically was here, and dino became big and their lifeforce was distorded.
Nero Venus' powers: We don't have more info, she severed the link between Velber and Altera (creating Altera Larva) and used dimensionnal stuff.
Tamamo's luck: No more info.
Time Lock: Maybe "limited Fate Manip" then? He can't use it instantly, but he seems to be able to use it pretty freely.
Iskandar's summoning: His warriors just appear like how Bucephalus did in Fate/Zero.
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Wide AoE Gameplay slashes aside, because gameplay, it is entirely possible to dodge or deflect attacks that would otherwise cut you in half. See like every sword fight of people not wearing armour. So no, just because they canonically fought Altera and "didn't get cut in half" doesn't mean they resist spatial hax. There are no showings of them outright resisting her attacks, they were all injured by her. Tamamoe's scans for this feat have also not been provided yet. Altera's attacks also don't EE on contact, they just cut through space.
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Protecting someone doesn't automatically mean letting yourself get hit instead, so that's still not proof. There are many other possible ways Caster could have protected him beyond letting herself get hit instead.
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I figured I should bring this up here. CCC BB is missing Cursed Cupid Cleanser. If her nerfed version in FGO can use it, then her CCC version can undoubtedly use it. It cool if I go ahead and add it?
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Well, I didn't, seeing as that's not in the scan. All I saw was Tamanoe standing in front of Hakuno.
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Remind me... were the proposed changes that were accepted applied yet?
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yes.
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