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Ben 10 vs The Stardust Crusader (0-7-0) (Grace)
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Then jotaro stops time and crushes ben before he can transform.
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ah yes, an in character jotaro is gonna time stop from 20 meters away and instantly tear a hole through a teenagers chest
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Why they stomp?
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he can change forms even whem alread turned into a Alien
Baken384
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No i mean i was referring to example Ben is in his alien form against Jotaro and he times out, reverting back to his human form since the Omnitrix went to its recharge mode, then since Ben is in mortal danger, it would quickly recharge his Omnitrix, could Ben turn into a alien in time before Jotaro bashes his head open?
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oh... no, time out is a death sentese in this case
Baken384
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Jotaro could try to time out Ben if he uses one of the tougher aliens by using the Secret Joestar Technique and Time Stop. I think he can still fight dudes like Humungousaur if he is angry enough since his stat amp is pretty good and for some reason Jotaro's lifting strength is gone in his profile so i forgot his LS
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Thanks to the rule "Only one stand can harm another stand" jotaro basically has an invisible shield in front of him which is indestructible, I don't think that would be a problem (apart from running away not being much in character for him)
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Jotaro can't kill Swamp Fire at all, plus Swamp fire has aoe fire and plant manip, and sleep hax.
Jetray counts as a speed amp iirc so they speed blitz
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agreed with swamp fire, disagree with Jetray, speed is equalized
so the only Ben option is swamp fire.... at least the only option taht can harm jotaro withou needing to pass S.P that is bassicaly indestructable here
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I don't see Jotaro straight up murdering some random teen unless bloodlusted or wronged extensively but killing is one thing, breaking every bone in your body and putting you in a hospital for half a year is something he does normally.
Hell he used to do shit like that even while not angry just for being slighted back in his school days.
He likely isn't in mortal danger, just danger of being hospitalized for half a year given how Jotaro usually does this.
Why are you assuming Jotaro is gonna kill him? That's not Jotaro's go to unless given proper incentive. He'd probably stop time and just break his limbs or something in character.
Time stop is thought based as well, multiple steps to get Master Control is likely no as fast as just one thought to time stop.
I also want to point out, in general, that the AP gap, while it's there, is probably not as big as one thinks, it's unquantifiable, but Peak SP is strong enough to dust a baseline High 8-C, he himself is unquantifiably above baseline, we just don't have a calc because it's via upscaling, but he at least one shots someone else who is.
Obviously not as good as a calc, but that should help SP fight here.
Hell he used to do shit like that even while not angry just for being slighted back in his school days.
I doubt Jotaro is gonna splatter a random dudes skull.
He likely isn't in mortal danger, just danger of being hospitalized for half a year given how Jotaro usually does this.
Why are you assuming Jotaro is gonna kill him? That's not Jotaro's go to unless given proper incentive. He'd probably stop time and just break his limbs or something in character.
Time stop is thought based as well, multiple steps to get Master Control is likely no as fast as just one thought to time stop.
I also want to point out, in general, that the AP gap, while it's there, is probably not as big as one thinks, it's unquantifiable, but Peak SP is strong enough to dust a baseline High 8-C, he himself is unquantifiably above baseline, we just don't have a calc because it's via upscaling, but he at least one shots someone else who is.
Obviously not as good as a calc, but that should help SP fight here.
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Also because someone mentioned it.
No, Stands can very much still be intangible while attacking, it's part of the whole Stand schtick.
No, Stands can very much still be intangible while attacking, it's part of the whole Stand schtick.
Baken384
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I don't think Ben uses Sleep Hax in character since Albedo was the one who used it, unless i missed an episode that Ben used the sleeping gas thing. plant manip should be manageable with his stand leaps to escape them or Star Platinum trying to bust down the vines that tries to grab him. AOE Fire could probably get Jotaro tho
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yes, ben never used sleep manipulation, but plants + fire is a dedly combination, even if jotaro can manage the palnts they will distract him from the burst of fire, Swamp fire is one wincon for ben, but I don't see his other aliens being able to handle jotaro...
so if this was Swamp fire vs Jotaro I would put Swamp fire win
but Ben vs jotaro I still think jotaro win beacuse of the propriets of stands against non stand users
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yes, but would istill be unable to be damaged by non stand users
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It hink so, most of ben's aliens can't do much against the nature os stands showing that jotaro can just block most atacks with a invisible and indestructable warrior that can stop time, ben's only win con is swamp fire overwelming jotaro with plants and AOE fire blasts making jotaro unable to block all and regenerating from any fatal hit
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Jotaro FRA
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I want to say that you make an interesting match lol.
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Unthough you give me a idea to another Jotaro's match.Aye, I just make random matches with Jotaro because why not
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Yeah but lets finish this first.
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kujo fra
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All the votes take into account Jotaro not being able to kill Ben right?
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