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She did not lose a direct fight to any of his forms. Context matters Glass. The game consistently shows Bayo being superior to Loptr and him needing to use hax or run away from their fights. You are effectively arguing that Bayo randomly became significantly weaker in the time between the end of Bayonetta 1 and the beginning of Bayonetta 2 to the point of being weaker than someone who is canonically half as strong as multiple bosses that she has canonically casually beaten in both games. Loki and Kid Loptr are both half of Aesir's power, adult Loptr/Prophet is kid Loptr after spending hundreds of years growing stronger by absorbing hate, but he still needed to steal Loki's Sovereign Power to get back to his original level of power, ie. the same level of power that Bayonetta stomped at the end of Bayonetta 1. As of Bayo 2, feats Bayo has include:@Comicgyal you do realize that putting someone out of commission is the exact same thing as beating them in a fight right? Nothing about this is remotely different as it means the exact same thing. This isn't one situation where she lost to Loptr, she lost like 3 times before he became Aesir, once in his base form in front of Inferno, the second as a child, and the third when he only had one eye, the only time she remotely had a chance against Loptr was when his powers got erased by Loki and had Balder to help her plus a gigantic goddess summon to finish off Loptr. You can say that it's disregarded but the reasonings is still on the page so you have to argue against Loptr being stronger than Bayo, which flies in the face of the entire scaling shown in the game itself.
- The end of the previous game where she canonically beat an empowered Jubileus
- Right Eye Jubileus is significantly stronger than her base form which is 2x stronger than Loptr as Loptr is half of base Aesir's power
- The second game where she beat Jeanne-absorbed Alraune (who was described as rivaling Queen Sheba in power)
- Her fights against Father Rodin (who is comparable to Jubileus in her prime) and Infinite Rodin (who is stronger than Sheba in her prime)
- (Of note, Rodin himself outright states at the end of his fights with her that she stomped him)
- The fights in Muspelheim where she outright beats both forms of Loptr as well as Aesir
- The guidebook outright confirming that she beat Aesir
Nope, you unlock them after the boss fights, the bosses in-game arent fightable in Muspelheim until after you beat them in the storyline first.@BayonettaxMinaj and when exactly is that muspelheim achievable again? Is it at any point in time before you get to the final boss fight? Because if so you shot your argument in the foot as a weaker loptr still stomped Bayonetta in the story cutscenes despite this random muspelheim challenge having her beat a stronger version of Loptr. I'm not taking the muspelheim stuff seriously as that contradicts showings in the game.