"Vegeta literally talked about countering hakai with his power(which is indeed showed). Goku, frieza, and Vegeta all reisted hakai. They and many other characters share a commonality in terms of ki. They dont have some random resistance that only they have. If they can flex their muscles and reist EE, than theres no reason Beerus cant, since he shares the same power set as them(Ki). Yeah, thats how it works in jojo and is indeed correct. But if a character can harm something similar to a stand, which is pretty much a non corporal being. Then they can harm a stand, unless other factors deny that possiblity."
Counter with his power =/= everyone can do it. Show me proof and I'll believe it, not only speculations over the AP and this stuff, they just have resistance over EE, not scalable to Beerus because he never demostrated it. No it's not the same, the anime directly states that no one who is a stand user can't touch a stand, speculations are not allowed dude, that's why there's somehing called verse equalization.
"Yeah, they dont have the same capacity, Toppo is a novice and cant do all the things Beerus can do. Toppo literally just recived his hakai energy. All they're doing is manipulating this energy for desired effects. Beerus has much greater mastery such as not needing to charge his attacks, instantly hits the target, etc. Toppo showing of his hakai affecting all the WOV was somewhat ap base anyway, and a simplistic use of his hax. Like I mentioned before Beerus is much stronger so he can replicate Toppo's feat. Plus all toppo did was shoot raw energy, Beerus has a improved version of hakai like ive shown. There is really no reason Beerus cant do the same things Toppo has done. Using Beerus's superior hakai at a long range akin to what Toppo did with his inferior hakai ball. Iirc Beerus even said he can erase people across space and time, the only thing that stop it from working was Black's timering which makes him acasual."
Yeah, that's are the things that Beerus can do with his hakai, totally different from Toppo, and maybe the reason of why his hakai is more powerful. But as I told you, this doesn't means that Beerus can do the same as Toppo. Stop doing Ad Nauseam repeating that Beerus can replicate Toppo's feats because yolo and bring one statement/feat of that at least xd.
"Ssg Goku and suppressed Beerus are ants compared fo full powered Beerus. All they're doing is clashing aka using their power. Beerus could easily replicate that at higher power. If they can create a shockwaves and energy ball that can cross U7 then it shows they have good range with miscellaneous attacks. We've never seen Beerus specifically have his hakai go that far, but using occams razor its makes alot more sense to assume they're relative unless stated otherwise. It would make no sense for Beerus to have to attacks cross universal distances but not be able to the same with his hakai, which have even been show to be use at long distances with other characters."
I know they are ants compared to Beerus, but how this prove me that Beerus' hakai has the same range?? Why Beerus "easily replicating" that shockwave at a higher power = can do the same with hakai?? And you say it, we never seen Beerus specifically have his hakai go that far, so we can't make speculations and conclusions about it.
Surely that's make more sense that say that his hakai has the same range at his base attacks xdddddd. And when does he fires a projectile to this range?? Can you give me links or something that I can see to prove that?? If your argument is a scaling of the shockwaves by clashing with Goku, or that energy explosion, keks xdxdxd.
