Battle of the DBS' Buff Bois - Broly vs Toppo

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Zeno's EE negating durability is fine as he can erase the space-times of universes.

Hakai negating durability? Absolutely not.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

what would happen if someone used Hakai to erase a universe and it's spacetime

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Nobody's erased space-time with Hakai.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I mean in a theoretical scenario.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Based upon every instance of Destruction energy in the show? It can be controlled via advanced enough energy control (see Frieza) or its capacity for erasure can be surpassed by vast enough energy (See SSBE Vegeta punching through Destruction energy and overpowering Toppo's strongest Hakai with Final Explosion).

A powerful enough Hakai user could probably perform 2-C, 2-B or even upwards to 2-A feats if they had the raw energy to accomplish the feat.

I genuinely don't see the argument against Broly just overpowering all of Toppo's destruction energy and stomping him like Frieza being stomped by Toppo tbh.

 

[WarriorofMite]

Broly stomps FRA.

 

[GigaSPX]

I vote Broly FRA. People saying he doesn't have erasure resistance should compare how someone like Frieza could resist Hakai even though he's never had god training. That's rea power alone.

Broly can give a whooping with his AP advantage and just outpower Hakai.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Nah im voted Toppo FRA.

you're guys that Broly fanbase be like you.

unless might a stomp Toppo solos matched.

 

[Ovrhide]

Let's see. Someone who got beat by ssbe vegeta, vs someone who is likely stronger than beerus...

Broly for logical reasons.

Who the heck would vote toppo in this case? Damn

 

[Ovrhide]

Let hakai be a durability negating attack in this situation. It makes no difference. Brolys raw strength, speed, and everything else FAAAAAR surpasses god toppo. Toppo gets blitz before he realises it. Especially since toppos hakai aura got surpassed by vegetas explosion, whose power output doesnt even come close what broly can dish out at even an initial FP ssj broly.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

SSJ Broly punches Toppo out of existance.

No Hakai is going to save him.Even Vegeta can resist it by raw strength.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

SSJ Broly punches Toppo out of existance.
No Hakai is going to save him.Even Vegeta can resist it by raw strength.

Proof?

 

[Ovrhide]

Proof?

About vegeta resisting it? Episode 126

Broly? Doesnt even need it. Speed blitzes Toppo before he utters t he words hakai. Anyone close to beerus in power can speed blitz and one shot toppo, let alone someone who is probably stronger than beerus.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Hakai has never worked on a stronger opponent.

 

[Ovrhide]

Hakai has never worked on a stronger opponent.

It doesnt matter either way. Toppo wouldnt have a chance to do anything even if hakai worked on broly. But you are right

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Hax in Dragon Ball has always been hard to quantify when comparing to Verses outside of Dragon Ball. Most hax as fair as Dragon Ball is considered is usually a "Only works on characters with lower PL's then them." It makes it difficult on weather to consider the hax mediocre at best, or to give every stronger character the ability to resist said hax from most characters with lower than them. Devilmite Beam was one exception, but it doesn't work on pure hearted beings is the weakness instead. Blue's paralysis did work on Goku despite the latter being much stronger, but doesn't work on Tao.

But yeah, I doubt Toppo's hakai works on people stronger than him; especially if speed was unequalized, which Broly blitzes.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I mean,Broly trashed already stronger versions of Goku and Vegeta.

Jiren is a better match for him.