Battle for the 2nd strongest Low 6-B

[Firephoenixearl]

Newly introduced and recetly op resilient boi in the blue corner


*Pops knuckles* Ok let's see what you can do.


vs

Idk much about this guy so can't make the joke in the red corner

Don't get cocky, puppet.

Full SBA.

Speed Equal.

Low 6-B for both.

Material Limbo.

Welp Reinhard vs Limbo ended in only 502 replies, Now, the aim is infinity and beyond. I mean sky's the limit when you don't give a $hit.


Also i'll be saying this here Limbo vs Altair (Re:Creators) for the strongest low 7-C is not far away at this point.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

I'll comment on the match after I've finished the updates to True Dark Genie's page.

For now, what does Limbo lead with?.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Player controlled character. Doesn't really have an opening move. Though, entering the Rift seems like a likely decision, considering that is Limbo's whole schtick.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Player controlled character. Doesn't really have an opening move. Though, entering the Rift seems like a likely decision, considering that is Limbo's whole schtick.

I'd say banish would be more in character but yes. I think Limbo will end up stomping if i really do apply "that" here since apparently it's applicable.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I mean, Limbo banish BFR won't work if TDG has any means of dimensional teleportation.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I mean, Limbo banish BFR won't work if TDG has any means of dimensional teleportation.

Hmm Stasis completely negs DT though. (I mean Dimensional Travel btw, not Devil Trigger)

 

[Sir_Ovens]

If Limbo has to maintain stasis, it's not a win-con. SBA states that a character has to not be actively keeping his or her opponent at bay to constitute a win.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Stasis is not something he has to constantly keep up though. That SBA rule applies to a case of "Goku blitz punches someone for eternity". That's not a win cond since goku is constantly moving and blitzing, so it's not like the fight for him has ended. Stasis is not even remotely similar.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The problem with that is that we assume Limbo's go-to is BFR-stasis. Limbo is a player controlled character, and any lore surrounding Limbo's character is breadcrumbs Ordis gives us from The Limbo Theorem questline.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Well i feel like it's safe to assume that unless knowledge is given, a warframe would mostly open up with his unique 4 abilities.

 

[Everything12]

From the wiki page on Stasis "Limbo halts all enemies in the Rift, freezing them in suspended animation for 8 / 10 / 12 / 15 seconds. " So it only last for a limited time, and once that time ends Limbo has to activate it again. Also will this effect anything "Cast and deactivation animations of 1 second"

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Those are game mechanics. In-universe Warframes can use their abilities to a much greater extent.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Those are game mechanics. In-universe Warframes can use their abilities to a much greater extent.

^^

Just this.

 

[Paul_Frank]

There is no indication though that stasis in the lore is permanent

Banishing is though

 

[Firephoenixearl]

3 things:

1. It's not time stop, it's dimensional freezing, so not the same time limit weaknesses as time stop.

2. When stasis is off, Limbo does a handwave, if it's cus he can't keep it any longer it would not need a hand wave.

3. It's done through energy not necessarily hax, and he has the energy to do it, undo it, then do it again with no gaps in between. If he has the energy to do it twice, why does he not have the energy to do it once but keep it twice as long? It's the same thing.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

How fast is Limbo's BFR and Stasis and does he have any other Win Conditions.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

How fast is Limbo's BFR and Stasis and does he have any other Win Conditions.

Point kind of fast. He points, BFR's you (knocks you down for a moment due to the dimensional swap, kind of like a backlash and deals some damage), then he waves and it's stasis.

And yes he does have, many others including but not limited to absolute 0, Absorption, Deconstruction, information analysis (which can then be used as info to create duplicates of TDG with his same AP and abilities), and that's counting only Limbo's stuff.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Absorption and deconstruction are two things that don't are not combat applicable. We've been over this fire, Simmaris doesn't want something he doesn't ask for. Scanning TDG will only save his info not deconstruct him. Absorption isn't even a real thing. Creating Warframes is something only the Orokin can do. Hell, Operators being a thing was completely by chance and not even something the Orokin can do.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Hop on to the CRT about the synthesis scanner, ask there. But i meant the deconstruction the warframes do, not the one with the synthesis scanner.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Creating Warframes is something only the Orokin can do. Hell, Operators being a thing was completely by chance and not even something the Orokin can do.

I didn't get what you mean by this though.

 

[Paul_Frank]

I think he meant creating the actual frames since all the tenno can do is replicate a blueprint of a weaker version

And for the operator part I think he's talking about how the Zariman incident was an accident

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I think he meant creating the actual frames since all the tenno can do is replicate a blueprint of a weaker version
And for the operator part I think he's talking about how the Zariman incident was an accident

Yes ok, but none of those were part of my argument though, that's why i am confused.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Does Limbo have anyway of Time Traveling 400 years into the past in order to body Seda?.

If not, he won't be winning, Absolute 0 doesn't matter since another Avatar will take it's spot. BFR and Stasis work but again, another Avatar just takes it's place since that one is incapacitated. While I believe Limbo can make clones of TDG's avatars, that wouldn't really change anything since they can't reach it's true form. Meanwhile TDG's true self will be spreading it's essence across time and absorbing it, eventually becoming it's Low 2-C form.

Also TDG couldn't even be sealed by the Atlamillia which absorbs Non-Corpreal entities and seals them instead itself which is a completely different Dimension so I don't think Limbo can absorb TDG but if it could then ok, but it still needs to get rid of it's true form. If it can do that then it wins.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

He can time travel back to Orokin Moon Era

Can't limbo just go for the true form and beat him to death?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

TDG is Seda's hatred. After it form, it created an Avatar which start burning the world. The Moon People (Magic Rabbits) used a powerful magic seal that broke down said Avatar and sealed it inside a giant urn.

Fast forward 400 years later, some idiots break the seal and released it. Later near the end of the game Seda states it doesn't matter if you destroy the current Dark Genie because it's actually in the past. Toan travels back to the past and who's waiting for him TDG's true form. Lol, yeah TDG was literally chilling for 400 years doing nothing because reasons unexplained. Anyway, as long as Seda's hatred remains TDG will exist in that moment in time aka 400 years in the past.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I didn't literally mean "kill him". I mean like mind haxing his true self or something.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The hell did mind hax come from? The only mind hax I know happens between the Operator and their Warframe.

 

[Paul_Frank]

I swear if you say tmitw

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I swear if you say tmitw

tmitw

It obviously comes from the literal idea of the whole verse "Void Energy mind and soul haxes people and turns them into mindless slaves under your control". Which is literally what the corrupted faction is.

There is also the mind hax used on Umbra which has a mind.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also about Limbo vs Altair nvm. He can't interact with Altair. It would have been fun, god damn it.

Edit: BUT Limbo vs Yukari might be fun.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Another thing i want to mention @Lord Grffin is, won't new avatars be useless?

I mean even if new avatars come they'll just be automatically stuck in the rift, so it doesn't matter how many avatars come, they'll end up in stasis.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Limbo would have to point at each avatar though before they go to the rift

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Limbo would have to point at each avatar though before they go to the rift

Hmm, not necessarily, Cataclysm is a thing. Not to mention portals which will give them the choice of entering or not. if they enter they're stuck, if they don't it's a win for limbo.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Cataclysm can be avoided by not being in range

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Cataclysm can be avoided by not being in range

Well yes, but then Limbo will be in a state where they cannot hurt him. If cataclysm or portals are up but they don't enter then it's a win for Limbo as they are willingly avoiding the fight.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

When this is over imma throw warframes at BB Low 6-B's apparently they don't have 2-A reality warping and passive stuff like that (not 2-A ones at least).

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Fire

Why would the Avatars literally go to the rift willingly when they know they will get stasised like the other one?. Also, why would it give Limbo a win if they don't enter?. The fight didn't start in the rift, Limbo used BFR to bring them there so that's not a win since they moved from the battle area. Limbo would half to come back and do it again on the next Avatar.

They are avoiding jumping into the BFR zone, not the battle ground. Unless they start in the rift, I don't see why they would lose. Limbo just BFR'd itself. Also TDG has precog so it can teleport to a different place right before Limbo BFR's.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I didn't literally mean "kill the true self". I mean like mind haxing his true self or something.

@LordGriffin ^^.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Mind Hax works but it's facing an Avatar, It will mind hax but then what?. In order to mind hax it's true form, you would half to go back in time.

 

[Paul_Frank]

So uhh about mindhax

The corrupted aren't mindhaxed by void energy, they are mindhaxed by the neural sentry. That is what the little gold ring things on their face are.

They operator didn't use mindhax on umbra they kinda empathized with it and umbra sided with then