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Alright, stronger = Ap then
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Base Momoshiki and Kinshiki downgrade
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If there is no context given whatsoever, then yes, stronger actually means stronger.
If it’s something like Kisame saying the stronger his opponent is, the stronger he is, and then explaining that he meant stamina in the literal next sentence, then you can say strength doesn’t actually mean strength.
If it’s something like Kisame saying the stronger his opponent is, the stronger he is, and then explaining that he meant stamina in the literal next sentence, then you can say strength doesn’t actually mean strength.
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I disagree with the downgrade
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I agree with this wholeheartedly.
Strength doesn't always strictly mean AP, yes, but when that's the case there's usually some context given to explain what "strength" means in this instance. If that extra context is not present, then it's just a traditional 'A > B' statement with no caveats.
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Agreed.
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Like, let me give another example of this: the Sound Four.
It is stated twice that Jirobo is the weakest member, period. Not “Jirobo’s the weakest because his techniques aren’t as refined as ours,” or “Jirobo’s the weakest because he doesn’t have good ninjutsu or genjutsu,” it’s just a direct “he’s the weakest” statement. And to support that, when Akamaru sniffs Kidōmaru, he immediately thinks that he’s stronger than Jirobo, and that’s it.
There’s no extra context given, which would mean that Jirobo being the weakest would in fact refer to actual strength and not hax or whatever.
It is stated twice that Jirobo is the weakest member, period. Not “Jirobo’s the weakest because his techniques aren’t as refined as ours,” or “Jirobo’s the weakest because he doesn’t have good ninjutsu or genjutsu,” it’s just a direct “he’s the weakest” statement. And to support that, when Akamaru sniffs Kidōmaru, he immediately thinks that he’s stronger than Jirobo, and that’s it.
There’s no extra context given, which would mean that Jirobo being the weakest would in fact refer to actual strength and not hax or whatever.
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The topic was already conceded on, we don't need more examples
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I know, I just wanted to elaborate further.
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Yes, because he is stated to be the weakest, and there is no further context. Therefore, he is weaker than her in terms of strength.
Just being a physical brawler doesn’t mean you’re automatically stronger than the rest of your team. Otherwise we’d have the likes of Kisame and Kakuzu being stronger than Pain.
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Technically Hidan is the only pure brawler in terms of fighting style. Every other member of the Akatsuki has some sort of trick or ability that greatly adds to their versatility in combat, while Hidan's only hax requires him to actually brawl and successfully wound his opponents. Yet Hidan is considered by most to be the weakest Akatsuki member overall lol. A person's "role" on a team doesn't necessarily mean he's the absolute best at it, it just means others happen to be even better at something else, and thus they chose to specialize at it.
So yeah, Jirobo being the weakest is kinda impossible to dispute imo.
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Additional statements for Boro is that Koji was glad he wouldn't have to fight Boro or Code, but was confident he'll make short work of Delta. And according to Volume character cards, Boro is on the same level as Code, and Code is superior to Delta:
To be consistent, we have to decide if statements or feats are more important.
To be consistent, we have to decide if statements or feats are more important.
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Feats are typically more important, I believe.
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If you want to ignore 3/4 chapters of team 7 fighting and defeating Boro, fine, but I don't think this is correct. Statements of who is stronger than wwho in Kara is very weird.
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There's also a vault of Cyborgs who are apparently > Jigen lol.
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BASED
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XD Poor Hidan.
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She should be 5-C, she could match Shin who can match Naruto and Sasuke, unless I am wrong about something
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I think Delta should honestly be downgraded with her being lower a ton of Karas scaling problems disappear
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Shin tanked Sasuke’s Great Fireball so he scales UwU
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And Sakura can fight against him, so, she also scales, 5-C sakura when?
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Sasuke also said she wasn’t weak, and she was stated in the Boruto movie novelization to be a suitable replacement for Naruto as Hokage so
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I'll make the Sakura upgrade CRT soon. Look forward to the spice bois.
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Now THIS is something I want to be notified of if and when this gets made lol
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Could we... not?
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Me too
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She also said she caught up to Naruto and Sasuke obviously she scales to Them
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That’s War Arc, not New Era smh.
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War Arc naruto and Sasuke are still 5-C
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