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Barney & Friends: The Statistics CRT
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The only "headcanon" here is the interpretation that Barney's an actually living reality warping abstract. Which is blatantly dishonest. You seem so adamant on using buzzwords like "headcanon" and "author intent" that you don't appear to be considering what either mean.
Headcanon is developing an idea that is not supported in either the text nor the subtext based on a few personal interpretations. Going along with the basic premise of the show which is reinforced and re-stated constantly is not a headcanon. It's just being reasonable.
Author Intent isn't completely unusable as you say it is. It is dismissed when it is clearly and conclusively contradictory, usually in terms of authors stating the power of their characters as higher or lower than what feats show. An author's insight into their own work is completely valid.
Headcanon is developing an idea that is not supported in either the text nor the subtext based on a few personal interpretations. Going along with the basic premise of the show which is reinforced and re-stated constantly is not a headcanon. It's just being reasonable.
Author Intent isn't completely unusable as you say it is. It is dismissed when it is clearly and conclusively contradictory, usually in terms of authors stating the power of their characters as higher or lower than what feats show. An author's insight into their own work is completely valid.
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@Kep You literally need to take a single look at Barney and the word "imagination"/"imaginary" is slapped across practically every episode of the series.
Barney himself is an imaginary friend. Not sure how you can say "It's my interpretation" based on that.
Barney himself is an imaginary friend. Not sure how you can say "It's my interpretation" based on that.
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How are barney's tier 4 fetas outliers when he flat out did them one after the other? Barney also has never fought anyone, so any battle feats are justifiable.
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What is actually stated is that the kids' imagination give Barney life. Not that he is only a figment of their imagination and nothing more. It doesn't matter how many times you try to bring up the author's purported intention when the actual showings show Barney as a real being.
And who is saying Barney is an abstract here?
And who is saying Barney is an abstract here?
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@Kep Anyways, running out of time for today. I'll leave saying thanks for the discussion so far and sorry if I said anything wrong/that sounded bad on my end.
I'll come back to this tomorrow assuming I get the conversation still going. Until then, trusting you all (both sides) with the discussion. o/
I'll come back to this tomorrow assuming I get the conversation still going. Until then, trusting you all (both sides) with the discussion. o/
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Aparently kids can now fly thru the sky and fly hot air ballons with their imagination.
Seriously just watch the movie
Seriously just watch the movie
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They're just imagining that's happening.Kyle Ramos said:
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They moved from one place on earth to the other.
I cannot judt imagine myself to be in japan.
I cannot judt imagine myself to be in japan.
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Yes you can. Specially if you're a kid.
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FTL or teleporting kids huh? Sounds imaginary to meKyle Ramos said:
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Yep. Far more reasonable to see it as imaginary than to randomly conclude that the kids have super powers.
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Don't we have profiles about fictional in-universe stuff like Buzz Lightyear: Star Command?
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Also, Toy Story is a false equivalence. It is outright shown right after that the scene is false and merely Andy imagining it. Barney, in the other hand, literally leaves realistically at the end of the episodes and is never acknowledged to be false, but rather a mysterious character.
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Yeah but that's actually a fictional show with a plot and continuity.Qawsedf234 said:
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Barney literally has old cast members come back and talk about how thry liked having adventures with barney
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And? That doesn't disprove any point, Kyle. Are you still going on about the non-argument of "remembering"?
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No, it proves that there is continuity
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Also lmao at the Barney world for apparently having MTFL+ Kids who have Reality Warping powers according to the blog
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lol
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Well if barney is not 'real" then the kids have Mftl+ high 4-C reality warping hax
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It's just a meme profile akin to Chuck Norris and Composite Tree. It's not really about accuracy in the end.LightinAnt said:
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From what I'm reading I'm with Kep here about Barney existing to some degree. Though I do think the profile is just an extremly bad idea and still has multiple large issuses.
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The only evidence I see about Barney existing as a physical entity beyond just a purple doll the kids have is him apparently appearing in some pictures, which should be seen less as him concretely being there and more the kids seeing him there.
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Yeah i see that with the images posted there tooMatthew Schroeder said:
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This.Qawsedf234 said:
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This whole imagination thing just means Barney exists as long someone belives in him. Like American gods Jesus.
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I'm here wondering why he has a profile
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But seriously I just say stop the profile from being made. If only for the large negative publicity that will inevitability follow its creation.
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Completely false equivalence. American Gods actually explains the entire cosmology in detail seriously and shows how it is shaped by belief and collective ideology and delusion. Barney meanwhile is the imaginary friend of a group of children.
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And it promotes similar profiles being made and wanked into oblivion, we should have a rule for thisQawsedf234 said:
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@Bob
His Tier 6 feats are extremely questionable and not such. All that is happening is Barney is jumping and the nearby surroundings are shaking. It's not a Tier 6 feat, or even City Block level. It's more like Small Building level.
His Tier 6 feats are extremely questionable and not such. All that is happening is Barney is jumping and the nearby surroundings are shaking. It's not a Tier 6 feat, or even City Block level. It's more like Small Building level.
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It has been officially accepted before, so long it´s reliable enought.Qawsedf234 said:
This is an indexing wiki, Vs. threads aren´t the main thing to take in account.
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Also the "Massively FTL+" feat is literally with a spaceship. It's not something that applies to reactions in the slightest. Han Solo isn't MFTL+
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I am just waiting for crab to post that episode with the musical instruments
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This is an indexing wiki, Vs. threads aren´t the main thing to take in account.Bobsican said:
Barney isn't the sole focus of that thread, the focus of it is meme / joke profiles.
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Barney doesn't have a profile.GoddessOfWinterr- said:
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The negative publicity has nothing to do with vs threads, but with others questioning the placement of Barney.
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I'm with this, to be perfectly honest.Qawsedf234 said:
A lot of the people here on both sides have been so overly-dramatic about this so far (across multiple threads, even) that I really don't see how the profile's creation is going to result in anything positive. We already have enough shitshows to handle without adding to it by making a profile that people are just going to keep bickering and complaining about.
I really don't even care whether the profile is suitable for creation anymore. If it's going to cause this much immaturity (and from what I've seen, I guarantee it won't stop even if Barney does get a profile), then I'd legitimately prefer if we just shot it in the head and moved on with our lives.
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