BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

If he was smart he should have killed all his men before the shinigami did then take their powers and then fight them.

but he’s arrogant that’s the problem

...... huh.....

Their powers return to Yhwach when they die. It doesn't matter if he steals them or waits for them to die. what're you even talking about. Like thanks to his Elite Sternritter he incapacitated pm everyone that invaded. He drastically reduced the amount of people he'd have to fight, thus increasing his odds of winning the battle.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

...... huh.....

Their powers return to Yhwach when they die. It doesn't matter if he steals them or waits for them to die. what're you even talking about. Like thanks to his Elite Sternritter he incapacitated pm everyone that invaded. He drastically reduced the amount of people he'd have to fight, thus increasing his odds of winning the battle.

I wasn’t saying wait for them to die. Just kill all of his men then take their power.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I wasn’t saying wait for them to die. Just kill all of his men then take their power.

I often forget you used to be pokemonfan807, but when I remember, all your takes make more sense.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I often forget you used to be pokemonfan807, but when I remember, all your takes make more sense.

I was trying to think of how yhwach could win

 

[KingogKings777]

I feel like I just lost some braincells reading this.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I feel like I just lost some braincells reading this.

I’m sorry

 

[AnonymousBlank]

It goes like this

1. Yhwach has X goons
2. When his goons die, he gets their powers
3. Before they die, they can kill other people that wanna kill Yhwach

If Yhwach kills his goons first, he gets their powers but suffers a net loss as they haven’t murdered the people coming to off him. Killing his guys makes no logical sense.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

It goes like this

1. Yhwach has X goons
2. When his goons die, he gets their powers
3. Before they die, they can kill other people that wanna kill Yhwach

If Yhwach kills his goons first, he gets their powers but suffers a net loss as they haven’t murdered the people coming to off him. Killing his guys makes no logical sense.

Then how could he have won then?

was there any way in which he could have won.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Then how could he have won then?

was there any way in which he could have won.

Kill Uryu at the start of the war.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Kill Uryu at the start of the war.

Was it because uryu was the mole I believe aka infiltrate/traitor.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Was it because uryu was the mole I believe aka infiltrate/traitor.

No it’s because Uryu is a blind spot to Yhwach and is the only person who could hit Yhwach with the stil silver arrow

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

No it’s because Uryu is a blind spot to Yhwach and is the only person who could hit Yhwach with the stil silver arrow

Why does he lose his powers though with that silver again exactly?

 

[Godernet]

Why does he lose his powers though with that silver again exactly?

just reread TYBW at this point.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

just reread TYBW at this point.

Inb4 I pull out my I’m useless and too lazy card

 

[Hellscream]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-fate-of-the-world-neo-metal-sonic-vs-yhwach-0-0-0.149445/#post-5487791

 

[KingogKings777]

just reread TYBW at this point.

Man probably read the Bleach wiki and thinks that the novels aren't canon at this point.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

novels aren't canon at this point.

Big no no.

unless the creator says it’s non-canon then I’ll accept it as canon.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

novels aren't canon at this point.

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[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/930983910597349436/1076192366836330606/318338382_683363519848025_665554173436619429_n.png

 

[skippy]

You know Liltotto in cfyow hints at Uryu and Ryuken being the only ones left to be capable of using Vollständig

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I think the bleach creator is a big fan of German/Norse culture. Given the German names and the thor like dude and more.

although isn’t japan a big fan of German culture in general.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

You know Liltotto in cfyow hints at Uryu and Ryuken being the only ones left to be capable of using Vollständig

You think Uryu's canon Vollstandig design would be his one from BBS?

 

[KingogKings777]

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

******* based man

 

[AnimesFreak2]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/669807069230268429/1076253556157448363/qpjdnt7993c81.png

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/669807069230268429/1076253556157448363/qpjdnt7993c81.png

@KingogKings777 has a anime pfp on here so his opinion is valid

You on the other hand have a non-anime pfp so it’s invalid

 

[KingogKings777]

https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/669807069230268429/1076253556157448363/qpjdnt7993c81.png

Needs better formatting like the others but not bad.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Needs better formatting like the others but not bad.

I like this

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No one’s allowed to explain anything to pokemonfan make them read

 

[KingogKings777]

No one’s allowed to explain anything to pokemonfan make them read

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I read the whole manga it’s been a while though

 

[Reio35]

Yhwach gains all their souls when they die so logically he should have their abilities

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

you guys interested in other soul societies cause there's a london one.

 

[Godernet]

Burn the Witch seemed cool. If Kubo ever goes back to that I’d probably read it.

 

[CodeCCLL]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/prime-soul-king-hax-revision-upgrade.149509/#post-5490260

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

so do you need to have shinigami genes and stuff to be able to use those weapons/swords and stuff seen in the first volume?

when I first read the series I thought ichigo was just a normal human just with the ability to see ghosts and stuff. Yet he was able to wield the weapon rukia gave him. Then I find out later his dad is a soul reaper and his mom is a Quincy. So then I realized why he could do this kind of stuff.

So it makes me wonder if a non-shinigami/Quincy person could wield those weapons and stuff.

assuming they can see ghosts and stuff like him.

 

[Tyri456]

強過ぎる霊圧は感じ取れない。それを先に証明したのは、藍染だった―。
A reiatsu that is too strong canon be felt. Aizen is a proof of that. - Unsmaked.

drop that, you have lost your argument, not feeling the reiastu has nothing to do with hydrids. Simply it happens when you are astronomically stronger than your opponent.

and stop with that Yama > zaraki, yama has no feats over zaraki. Yama at best is > gremmy with his bankai.

zaraki is > gremmy with his eyepatch ON which is a more than x10 multiplier and without even his BANKAI. Tf Yama gonna do to zaraki when he is inferior in every aspect raging from feats, author statement, multiplier and narrative.
CFYWO blatantly shown you as consistency for that Zaraki being > Ichibei in base. It is just delusional at this point.

 

[Tyri456]

Now you even arguing Muken Aizen being weaker than god Aizen? Why Kubo even bothered to make Urahara say that, if he thinks god Aizen is stronger. Of course Muken Aizen is the strongest, he also fused with the zanpakuto as final gestuga tensho, which is the pinnacle of evolution, Aizen predicted he would have reached heights higher than final gestuga tensho ichigo after fusing with kyoka suigestu.

Not to mention Muken Aizen tanked 3 or 4 attack from Soul King Yhwach after he absorbed every sternitter + Gerard, literally the strongest characters ever in bleach.

 

[Tyri456]

CFYOW also said 3 times that the Hogyoku creates konpaku at soul king level, no databook needed, Aizen is still perfectly fused with the Hogyoku and he still get stronger off screen, so even with the dumbest interpretation Muken Aizen is still in the same tier as his god form.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

so do you need to have shinigami genes and stuff to be able to use those weapons/swords and stuff seen in the first volume?

when I first read the series I thought ichigo was just a normal human just with the ability to see ghosts and stuff. Yet he was able to wield the weapon rukia gave him. Then I find out later his dad is a soul reaper and his mom is a Quincy. So then I realized why he could do this kind of stuff.

So it makes me wonder if a non-shinigami/Quincy person could wield those weapons and stuff.

assuming they can see ghosts and stuff like him.

may you answer this @Tyri456