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Already did, multiple times actually.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Yama literally toyed with royd, and nothing correlat royd to the other sternitters, Yhwach could had very well amped him for his plan to trick Yama, you have no clue of what you are arguing. You are just saying oestu has better feats when I already proved Yama objectively scales massively above those sternitter oestu clapped.
good thing you shown here to read nothing, read SAFWY, squad zero came up before even Yama was in the battlefield, he didn’t even fight, azashiro’s zanpakuto explicitly say that azashiro would take a fat L by Yama, Keep being wrong tho.
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The event he fought him? And we never saw it besides that arc, same with the Memories of Nobody thing from the manga. Same justification.
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No. The other filler arcs are not canon.
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Composite Bleach canon.
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Why?
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Arc's point is that it would make the zanpakuto rebellion arc canon, but regai arc is irrelevant to that
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We never are shown the events of the Regai Arc being canon… Koga isn’t part of Regai
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What exactly are you asking? if you're talking about AP then we do scale Ulquiorra above most of the higher ranking Espada like Starkk and Baraggan while in Segunda Etapa, hell we even scale him above their Res's.
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Because the narrative doesn't support it and Yammy is stated like three times across the manga and databooks to be stronger than Ulquiorra
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aizen is unaware of the second resurrection of ulquiorra ichigo by that point he was already leagues stronger zaraki and byakuya
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He wasn't, nothing proves he was. Zaraki and Byakuya have better feats compared to Ichigo during this point of the arc, which means we'd scale them above Ichigo.
Also the "Aizen was unaware of Segunda Etapa" isn't a concrete statement either, this is from Ulquoirra's perspective, not some omniscient narrator, it doesn't mean Aizen didn't know about SE just because Aizen "supposedly" never saw Ulquiorra go SE. You can make that assumption but i'd counter it by saying Aizen was the one who gave Ulquiorra his SE and such would have intimate knowledge of the form.
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I never said anything about their rankings though?
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No he wasn't. You do know espada train and get stronger on their own? And the databook implies ulq learn this form on his own.
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Even the db stated aizen never saw the form
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Never saw =/= doesn’t know tbf
Aizen never saw Ichigo’s full hollow but he alluded to having knowledge on Ichigo possessing such a powerful form
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He never saw that form either. He concluded he got a greater power after fighting ulqurriora. When he was felt his getsuga
Plp act like aizen has cosmic awareness. If that was the case then why,would he build a fake sun so he can monitor plp in los noches?
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He wasn't what? i have no idea what you're responding to with this statement ngl.
Yes? doesn't prove that Ulquiorra gained his Segunda Etapa through training when that's quite literally never shown or implied with any other Esapda, or just Arrancar's in general, even those who are stronger/train harder then Ulquiorra like Cien Grantz and Grimmjow don't have Segunda Etapa. You'd require a higher preponderance of evidence to assume that Ulquiorra trained to get that form compared to the claim that Aizen gave him that form through the Hogyoku.
Both of our claims require assumptions, it's just that my claim has less assumptions intertwine within it compared to your claim.
Proof?
Proof?
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Meanwhile Aizen has Cosmic Awareness on his Profile
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Only for TYBW thoughMeanwhile Aizen has Cosmic Awareness on his Profile
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Sith Yama.
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No the databooks state Byakuya, Jenny, and Yammy put up a good fight against each other
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I find Yammy scaling completely unreliable
Kubo obviously didn't know what he wanted to do with this mf
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Ah yes repeated statements of Yammy’s maximal Res being the strongest in the Espada is so unreliable
stop coping cuz you don’t like Yammy
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Ah yes repeated statements of Yammy’s maximal Res being the strongest in the Espada is so unreliable
I ain't getting into this argument with you right now....maybe some other time in VC
Cya
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Yea the reasoning is wrong. He didn't know what was going on in the soul palace. He assumed yhwach came to ss cause ichigo was giving him a hard time
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1.You made you the assumption aizen just gave him the power. While ignoring the fact espada have shown to get stronger through their own training like nnoritora. Who jumped from rank 8 to 5.
2.If ulq and the databook both state that aizen has not seen this form. That implies he is not aware of it. Otherwise what would be the point of this statement?
Translations
"Ulquiorra is the only one of the arrancar that is capable of releasing the second stage. Its appearance is that of a demon itself."
"The limbs and wings transform like a beast, giving a thick and heavy spiritual pressure at the second stage. It is has not been shown to aizen, and only Ulquiorra can be mutated within the espada."
"The reason why even Aizen, to whom Ulquiorra swears allegiance, has not seen his second level, is because he subconsciously realizes that this is the original form of his own clan, which is the origin of Ulquiorra's own "nothingness".
He would logically have to had awakened this form on his own as aizen is not aware of it.
They don't you claims require a more extreme assumption.
