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Ulq > Yammy. Ulqs SP couldn't be measured anymore once he transformed unlike Yammy who still could be measured.Yammy > Ulquiorra R.I.P. argument.
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aka Yammy’s Cero blast and Cero Oscuras > Lanza Del Relampago.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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So how long is a Ri?Still confuses me to this day why Viz decided to go with the Chinese li when converting Ichibe's 1000 ri and Toshiro's 3 ri for a Japanese manga
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I seriously beleive VIZ should re-edit the early Bleach volumes. They are riddled with translation mistakes.
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Chinese li = 0.5 Kilometers
Japanese ri = 3.93 Kilometers
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What?
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I had never seen this LI, in the Chinese works I read they only use Zhang
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Hitsugaya range 12 km
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Both are pretty uncommon to use iirc, but as Arc said, Kubo uses it for the Soul Society to reflect how antiquated it isI had never seen this LI, in the Chinese works I read they only use Zhang
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Yes his Shikai range is stated to be 3 ri or just under 12 km
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That same Ichigo measured Transcend Aizen SP. Your comment means squad.
Ovy7
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A good while ago I found some discussion about this on some random forum where a dude who knew some Viz translators that worked on Bleach said that they basically just googled "Ri" and picked the first option.Still confuses me to this day why Viz decided to go with the Chinese li when converting Ichibe's 1000 ri and Toshiro's 3 ri for a Japanese manga
Dunno how true that statement is tho (but it's Viz, so who know).
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What?
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Based on the rank given to him by aizen. Man literally goes out his way to say aizen didn't see his strongest implying he's stronger than wht hes ranked.
Show the scan him putting girmmjow at 12. Hell one are grimmjow was still far above yammy who got negged by bankai ichigo. One arm grimmjow took blows from masked ichigo and shinji.
He used the,same ranks aizen gave in the manga hush
The both canceled each other out cause they were equal proving ulq is around VLs level. Starrks wolves amplify his normal ap.
Cien did stop being dishonest.
Cien words verbatim.
"And you probably thought coping either of those powers you could kill me"
This clearly means SE and VL are strongest forms in HM she can copy.
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Unemployed grindset
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It upgrades the Sokyoku calc by a decent amount (over 10x from what I've been told by Arc)
Basically any "Seireitei Destruction" feat/statement get a massive upgrade.
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Is anyone can help me with rewording my CRT. I found some more proof for information manipulation based on canon movie MON. if the CRT gets accepted bleach NPI would be sky rocketed. Also information type 2 manipulation itself is pretty good ability.
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I’ll blog all the affected calcs if it gets accepted
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Headcanon
There
Nobody cares about your scaling
Headcanon
No they aren't equals lol, VL blocked Lanza bare handed wtf are you talking about? And oh correct don't tell me he used a special hierro because that's another head canon
as if Cero osceras doesn't amplify Ulq's attack potency by 10 times more than normal ceroHe didn't, stop crying
Cien was talking about what Roka thought, he said before that Roka thought if she copied Starrk or Barragan, she will make a more powerful attack that Cien's GRC which was compared to VL who was able to destroy Ulq and stomp on his face, you wanna take what Roka thinks as facts? Sure Starrk's wolfs > Cien GRC > Ulq.
However Cien corrected here and said it will be troublesome to fight against only VL Ichigo, your 4th ranked character isn't included in this.
Cien said nothing in HM surpassed Starrk, Barragan and Yammy except himself and Aizen.
Conclusion: Clyde fans doesn't have a single argument that supports their scaling, when you bring Kubo's ranking, Ulq's statements, and Cien's, they will use their headcanon and twist the texts in anyway that suits them.
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Barrgan,starrks and yammys powers were possible powers he thought sje would use. Then he later says the most probable powers she would is SE or VL because their the strongestHeadcanon
There
Nobody cares about your scaling
Headcanon
No they aren't equals lol, VL blocked Lanza bare handed wtf are you talking about? And oh correct don't tell me he used a special hierro because that's another head canon
He didn't, stop crying
Cien was talking about what Roka thought, he said before that Roka thought if she copied Starrk or Barragan, she will make a more powerful attack that Cien's GRC which was compared to VL who was able to destroy Ulq and stomp on his face, you wanna take what Roka thinks as facts? Sure Starrk's wolfs > Cien GRC > Ulq.
He later back tracked and said VL ichigo was stronger and her best chance at beating him.
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Ulquiorra's arguments for his higher end scaling like Reio's trying to propose are actual ass cheeks. Nnoitra unironically has better high end arguments/interpretations compared to Ulquiorra.
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Not at all
Ulqs cero was equal to VLs. Ulq cutt VLs horn while he was charging a cero. Thiers way more going for ulq tbh
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Where are you getting equal from? Zangetsu's Cero's completely overpowered and negated Ulquiorra's Cero's...why do you think there's pretty much zero scaling between Ulquiorra/Zangetsu on Ulquiorra's profile?
Ulquiorra's Lanza was effortlessly obliterated and no sold by Zangetsu with his hand alone, they're not even close.
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In the anime it did. But in the manga they both canceled each other which means their equal
Read the manga again VL ichigo amprf his hand to break it
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It wasn't? it was just relative enough to counteract Hollow Ichigo's Cero. Also that was Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras, an attack which is directly stated to be a 10x amp compared to his basic ceros. Which means Ulquiorra needed an attack that was 10x above his usual output to barely counteract one of Hollow Ichigo's basic cero's.
That isn't equal in anyone's eyes but yours.
What does this prove exactly? that Hollow Ichigo's horn is relative in durability to the AP of his Cero's?
Literally no.... just no.
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No they did not, the word used is "quashed", to "quash" something is to put an end to/suppress, all we're told is that Zangetsu's Cero pretty much destroyed Ulquiorra's, nothing about Ulquiorra's doing the same.
And the raw goes a step further and states Zangetsu's Cero wiped out/extinguished/blew it away
それも黒虚閃を消し飛ばす程の...
消し飛ばす = to extinguish/wipe out
And of course this was a Cero Oscuras, which are 10x stronger than Ulquiorra's regular ones, putting the gap between Ulquiorra and 50% Zangetsu at a bare minimum of greater than 10x, not even remotely close.
I don't see how Zangetsu growing his nails a bit is an amp that lets him literally palm tank Ulquiorra's strongest ability...
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Unknown, we will find out today or tomorrow before the episode or it will be something in the episodeWhat are these "special contents"
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Honestly, as someone who for a really long time considered SE Ulq as the strongest Espada, those SAFWY and Databook stuff do be swaying me towards Ulq being weaker than Starrk and Yammy.
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Ulquiorra cero never compared to the vasto Lorde, the manga say that the vasto lorde cero annihilated ulquiorra cero, and if you look at the anime, the vasto lorde cero completely overwhelmed ulquiorra cero easily, there is no scaling between the vasto lorde and ulquiorra.
for the strongest hierro or fastest espada or any other title, it is more like just a figure of speech to show what the espada is good at, o simply those espada have those ability as higher amp compared to other espada, but not necessarily being the highest.
this because is clearly explained that lower number > stronger, look at stark in hueco mundo, in his base form has the highest speed feat of the espada by blitzing zaraki over hundred of meters, (res nnoitra was getting blitzed by zaraki so bad) so yeah, even in his base he is far faster than res zoomari.
ichigo is weak af during the arracar arc, Shunsui would have clapped 2nd etapa Ulquiorra.
for the strongest hierro or fastest espada or any other title, it is more like just a figure of speech to show what the espada is good at, o simply those espada have those ability as higher amp compared to other espada, but not necessarily being the highest.
this because is clearly explained that lower number > stronger, look at stark in hueco mundo, in his base form has the highest speed feat of the espada by blitzing zaraki over hundred of meters, (res nnoitra was getting blitzed by zaraki so bad) so yeah, even in his base he is far faster than res zoomari.
ichigo is weak af during the arracar arc, Shunsui would have clapped 2nd etapa Ulquiorra.
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They extinguished each other fam. That's why they both exploded when they collided. Even if you argued ichigo's over powered his that means ulq would have to tank vl's cero.No they did not, the word used is "quashed", to "quash" something is to put an end to/suppress, all we're told is that Zangetsu's Cero pretty much destroyed Ulquiorra's, nothing about Ulquiorra's doing the same.
And the raw goes a step further and states Zangetsu's Cero wiped out/extinguished/blew it away
それも黒虚閃を消し飛ばす程の...
消し飛ばす = to extinguish/wipe out
And of course this was a Cero Oscuras, which are 10x stronger than Ulquiorra's regular ones, putting the gap between Ulquiorra and 50% Zangetsu at a bare minimum of greater than 10x, not even remotely close.
Also we know ulq can tank his own cero oscuras. If he can hold and control his lanzas power which if far stronger. He even implies he can tank lanza.
Why else would turn black and grow long when he's trying to break an attack? Just for eye candy ig
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In the anime ulq tanked hid cero after VL overpowered. VL shots another cero after and they both cancel each other because they were equal.
Ulq packs shunsui fam
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cut Yhwach in half
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Makes him faster or Bypasses fate(theory), we have nothing else to go off of
