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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

AppleLord said:


Jaymes said that his leak source in Japan from whom he buys scans, told him something very interesting. Disney has been in contact with Kubo after his Disney's collaboration for Loki. Disney is looking to buy Bleach from Kubo for two years now. That would mean disney will milk it and we'll have Bleach content for years to come. Sadly, it won't be Kubo's art.
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Oh **** no.
 
Reio35 said:
Literally makes no sense. Aizen stated he was slowing down do the process of the hogyoku fusion. Aizen power is stated to be unmatched by anyone in ss except yamamoto. The db already stated their not on aizens level and was never harmed by any of their attacks. The were only breaking his shell which doesn't scale to aizen himself.

Isshin had trouble with a pre mature vasto lorde ichigo. Aizen scales above a stronger VL ichigo. He's not on aizens level this goes against aizens lore of him being the strongest shimigami
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"Aizen stated he was slowing down"

Isshin notes that aizen only slowed down towards the end of their battle. Meaning that the soul re-structure process had a negligible effect on aizen's physical performance for the majority of their scuffle.

"Aizen is stated to be unmatched by anyone in SS except yamamoto"

Aizen was only referring to the power of his body/raw energy without the additional boost of a zanpakuto being unequalled. Aizen having a more powerful base form than let's say base yama (not saying he does this is an example) doesn't inherently entail that he would be stronger than bankai yama. Not only that but Aizen also only talks about his time in the Soul Society and it would just mean that isshin got stronger in preparation for the FKT battle as it's explicitly stated that kisuke's group were training and prepping for the war.

"The db already stated their not on aizens level and was never harmed by any of their attacks. The were only breaking his shell which doesn't scale to aizen himself."

Nice strawman. If you cared to read what I posted, then you wouldn't have said this. I stated that isshin's base getsuga did more damage to chrysalis aizen than kisuke's shikai attacks, with kisuke having his own set of feats and statements which put him at base aizen level. I was simply noting how isshin did better and aizen himself compliments the power of the getsuga whereas he scoffed at shunko yoruichi and shikai kisuke's attacks.

"Isshin had trouble with a pre mature vasto lorde ichigo. Aizen scales above a stronger VL ichigo."

Young isshin has no scaling to FKT isshin so this is irrelevant. I've already explained why isshin just could've gotten stronger post-training

"He's not on aizens level this goes against aizens lore of him being the strongest shimigami"

No, yama and/or ichibei have lore of being the strongest shinigami not aizen. It's literally stated that aizen isn't a threat to yama in unmasked. Furthermore aizen himself concedes to kisuke being an equal to him.

Got any more memes for me?
 
Reio35 said:
Like literally aizen assessed everyone's power level and the only people he deemed as a threat was yamamoto and kenpachi. If isshin was in anyway comparable to him. He would have been on his hit list.

Like gin has seen plp like isshin fight and still stated aizens powers were unequal to any of the captains.
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prove that gin was aware of post-training isshin's full capabilities when he made that statement. Going off of the kisuke and isshin stuff brought up earlier, it'd mean that his assessment wasn't perfect and would only apply to all generations of the espada and all of the captains who were attacking him at that very moment.

Also we don't know if isshin regained his shinigami powers or began his prep for the FKT battle when aizen made his "hit list"
 
Rebirth said:
prove that gin was aware of post-training isshin's full capabilities when he made that statement. Going off of the kisuke and isshin stuff brought up earlier, it'd mean that his assessment wasn't perfect and would only apply to all generations of the espada and all of the captains who were attacking him at that very moment.

Also we don't know if isshin regained his shinigami powers or began his prep for the FKT battle when aizen made his "hit list"
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Gin and aizen saw him fighting white and still didn't see him as a threat
 
Rebirth: Isshin trained in preparation for FKT, aka FKT Isshin > Captain Isshin
Reio35: Aizen didn't think Captain Isshin was a threat despite going out of his way to secretly cripple the dude

🗿
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Rebirth: Isshin trained in preparation for FKT, aka FKT Isshin > Captain Isshin
Reio35: Aizen didn't think Captain Isshin was a threat despite going out of his way to secretly cripple the dude

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Except isshin didn't train for 17 years. We know how not training makes you weaker. To think a few months of training can make up for 17 years of not training makes no sense
 
That's an anime thing in general getting strong with little time or when plot needs be but yes kisuke does have time chamber moments to get stronger quickly
 
Theendzero13 said:
besides fan hype
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"fan hype"

direct statements from knowledgeable characters about how Prime Soul King is transcendental towards everyone and everything, that no one could compare to him and how singular fragments from his body grants you immeasurable power that puts you above most characters in the series.

"fan hye"

@Arc7Kuroi Imma about to hit this dude with the frog pic.
 
power is in reference to his amount of Reiryoku.

Reiryoku increases all stats, across the board.

so having "transcendental power" would inherently mean he would have "transcendental speed"

it isn't that hard to comprehend my guy.

the beings in the original universe would ******* demolish everyone in the current universe so that doesn't matter nor does that counter my argument.
 
Deceived said:
"fan hype"

direct statements from knowledgeable characters about how Prime Soul King is transcendental towards everyone and everything, that no one could compare to him and how singular fragments from his body grants you immeasurable power that puts you above most characters in the series.

"fan hye"

@Arc7Kuroi Imma about to hit this dude with the frog pic.
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Do it
 
Deceived said:
power is in reference to his amount of Reiryoku.

Reiryoku increases all stats, across the board.

so having "transcendental power" would inherently mean he would have "transcendental speed"

it isn't that hard to comprehend my guy.
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The transcendental power is in reference to him being above anything in the original universe and thus able to divide and sustain it , also more reyroku does not mean a linear increase to all stats it is not 1:1 all the time
Deceived said:
the beings in the original universe would ******* demolish everyone in the current universe so that doesn't matter nor does that counter my argument.
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Ichibe is the strongest guy of the original universe (apart from soul king )we know of and there are like a several current universe characters who would one-shot him
 
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