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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Soul King was kinda an universal constant when he born from the nothingness, I doubt there will be characters comparable to him. Probably only Yhwach was approaching a level similar to him, and I doubt we will see someone stronger than Yhwach In the first place.

Unless they are gonna expand the lore and create something opposite of the soul king.
 
Tyri456 said:
Soul King was kinda an universal constant when he born from the nothingness, I doubt there will be characters comparable to him. Probably only Yhwach was approaching a level similar to him, and I doubt we will see someone stronger than Yhwach In the first place.

Unless they are gonna expand the lore and create something opposite of the soul king.
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Or introducing someone who created Reio from nothingness
 
i think someone mentioned the theory but what was the soul king idea kubo possibly influenced him by? potentially the next villain could be his wife?
 
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lol no i think someone mentioned his idea/concept was heavily influenced or similar to a real life old story
kinda how naruto kaguya is tied to the real life japanese folklore
 
I think the theory also stems from the line from the novels that was stated by Ichibei about the origins of Yhwach. He theorizes that Yhwach could be similar to the other parts of the SK or he could be a literal child of the sk that he left behind before he got sealed. However for all we know about the Soul king he could have just willed Yhwach into existence rather than marry and have a child. (which I find weird and less probable lol)
 
Purgy said:
The Soul Queen

It's not impossible if Yhwach is literally SK's child and not a piece of him.
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That’s more a metaphor.

The same way Yhwach claim to be Ichigo dad, Yhwach is likely some sorta of reincarnation I would say, they also say there is this possibility That Yhwach is part of the Soul King.

Although I would not dislike the idea that he get a wife lol, but it’s unrealistic given the lore.
 
Let’s say for a second he did have some sort of wife.

Where is she?
Why did she let her husband get chopped into pieces and used as an eternal battery?
Why was Yhwach randomly found in some unknown village by villagers and was born with all those disabilities no less?
Why didn’t she help her son free her husband?

If she does exist she’s like the worst mother/wife. ☠️
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Let’s say for a second he did have some sort of wife.

Where is she?
Why did she let her husband get chopped into pieces and used as an eternal battery?
Why was Yhwach randomly found in some unknown village by villagers and was born with all those disabilities no less?
Why didn’t she help her son free her husband?

If she does exist she’s like the worst mother/wife. ☠️
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She was sealed In hell now wants revenge
 
W0NDER3X said:
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this is the one. mfw when i read it and its nothing alike...
 
I feel like Yhwach could be like the SK in how he appeared because the world is "****** up" in a sense which is why he is similar to SK and is considered his son as he is sort of pseudo clone.
 
maybe if we guilt trip Arc enough he'll make a crt upgrading all the fullbringers 👀
 
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高めたその力は藍染惣右介を倒す為に

そして藍染惣右介を倒し失った力を

再び取り戻したのは

私の眼前で霊王の命を断つ為だったのだ

That power enhanced for the sake of felling Aizen Sousuke...

And the power lost to fell Aizen Sousuke...

A second time you've regained it...

All for the purpose of severing the Soul King's life before my eyes!

再び means a second time btw

Yhwach quite literally states that Ichigo regained the "Aizen defeating power twice" like it doesn't get much clearer than that yeesh
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Kaguya's first IT affected humans that didn't have Chakra as Hagoromo hadn't shared it with the world yet.

In all honesty though, I firmly believe that most Genjutsu shouldn't work on anyone because it's not really a mental attack. It's energy manipulation of a unique energy network system exclusive to Naruto. I literally can't think of any other series that has such biology linked to cranial nerves that would allow Genjutsu to work on them.

We jump several hoops to allow it to work on VS matches that it honestly feels like pandering because if I pulled Guts from Berserk and Itachi from Naruto into our real life universe, no shit Itachi can't use Genjutsu on Guts since he doesn't have a Chakra Network System nor an energy system.
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Unordinary has something similar with their Aura system, as they can be disabled with a drug. That's the only one I know.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
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高めたその力は藍染惣右介を倒す為に

そして藍染惣右介を倒し失った力を

再び取り戻したのは

私の眼前で霊王の命を断つ為だったのだ

That power enhanced for the sake of felling Aizen Sousuke...

And the power lost to fell Aizen Sousuke...

A second time you've regained it...

All for the purpose of severing the Soul King's life before my eyes!

再び means a second time btw

Yhwach quite literally states that Ichigo regained the "Aizen defeating power twice" like it doesn't get much clearer than that yeesh
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well then...
 
Well it’s not hard to understand, Ichigo regains the power that was enhanced and lost to defeat Aizen, twice…
 
Are you sure to do not have translated again and twice 2 times... because every translation say just “you have regained that power” the link you posted also say it can means again Not solely twice.
 
Bro click the link to the kanji, it means “again; once more; a second time”. My translations have precedence for accuracy as well, I can break it down kanji by kanji for yall later.
 
i just google searched aizen sosuke kanji 藍染 惣右介 < i see those kanji in the second line aswell i feel cheated unless hira/katakana doesn't work that way
 
Their are many arguments for genjustu not working on bleach characters. Like infinite tsukuyomi the strongest genjustu not working on edos which are undead kinda like spirits.

Spirits in naruto can't be killed or even harmed by physical attacks.

Their zanpakto spirits can wake them if caught.

Spiritual pressure sensing can possibly counter as well
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
My translations aren't wrong, I wouldn't lie to you 😘
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lov u bb,
i don't wanna force drama/conflict so you don't have to answer but is there anything wrong with Qliphoth interpretation? or is it another valid way of translating it?

The power you raised up to take down Aizen Sousuke...

And the power that you lost to defeat him...

You've regained it...

Only to cut down the life of the Soul King right before my eyes!
 
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