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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Excellence616
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What about the dangai/precipice world that is between worlds but also is completely cut off from space and time of the other realms while being within the garganta.
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Are you using the size of the observable universe times three, or just the observable universe itself? Because according to Arc’s calculation of shaking the three realms, each realm is the size of the observable universe.Creating the worlds is 1 minute? Timeframesplitting the universe into 3 pieces in one minute and the transmutation 2/3 of it is…
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My calculation was based on 1 observable universe was split into 3 equal parts.
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The Garganta being infinite? Sure. Any other realm? Absolutely not.
The Garganta is the only realm with an infinite size statement.
The Japanese statement about the Garganta can be interpreted as either "infinite expanse" or "infinitely expanding." However, using the official translation, which translates it as "endless expanse," the first interpretation is more accurate. Therefore, the Garganta is infinite. (Keep in mind that "infinite expanse" and "infinitely expanding" are two completely different things—check a dictionary.)
EXPANSE Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
EXPANSE definition: an uninterrupted space or area; a wide extent of anything. See examples of expanse used in a sentence.
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1. a large, open area of land, water, or sky: 2. a large, open area of land…
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Definition of EXPANSE
firmament; great extent of something spread out… See the full definition
Wouldn't this be enough.
Papa Arc is basically the president of Bleach scaling, so if he thinks 2-C Bleach exists, it probably does. And if he thinks Bleach caps at Low 2-C, it probably does. Just wait for his post-Cour 3 revision, and we’ll see how it turns out.
It should be 3 times the size of the observable universe, split into 3 equal parts.
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Digitally doing tricks on it is beyond crazy.
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For Squad 0’s reiatsu to traverse from soul society to world of the living it inherently traverses and interacts with both space and time. Given the two are spatiotemporally isolated. I want to make a 2-C Squad 0 thread but I’m going to let this and potentially the next cour conclude before deciding if that’s consistent
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yea probably best not to rush also considering all the cosmic stuff will be coming in these two cours.
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The living world Bleach doesn't come from the Big Bang, right ? So, there is no reason to use the size of the irl observable universe for the cosmology, there is also the fact that the living world is arround 1000 000 years old.
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Bro only messages this thread to downplay the verse.
It's so tragic.
It's so tragic.
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What are you talking about ? Why would i do it ?
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Each realms are infinite size universe on their own. There's obviously something, that's why I said so. And my reply would be same. Wait for cosmology vlog.
Garganta being infinite definitely impacts the cosmology size by massive mergin due to it containing hyperdimension within it. Someone capable of destroying garganta would easy slap someone who can one shot 3 worlds.
On different note dangai's durability should be abnormally higher than standard uni+ model.
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The Garganta being infinite? Sure. Any other realm? Absolutely not.
The Garganta is the only realm with an infinite size statement.
The Japanese statement about the Garganta can be interpreted as either "infinite expanse" or "infinitely expanding." However, using the official translation, which translates it as "endless expanse," the first interpretation is more accurate. Therefore, the Garganta is infinite. (Keep in mind that "infinite expanse" and "infinitely expanding" are two completely different things—check a dictionary.)
EXPANSE Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
EXPANSE definition: an uninterrupted space or area; a wide extent of anything. See examples of expanse used in a sentence.expanse
1. a large, open area of land, water, or sky: 2. a large, open area of land…Definition of EXPANSE
firmament; great extent of something spread out… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Wouldn't this be enough.
Papa Arc is basically the president of Bleach scaling, so if he thinks 2-C Bleach exists, it probably does. And if he thinks Bleach caps at Low 2-C, it probably does. Just wait for his post-Cour 3 revision, and we’ll see how it turns out.
It should be 3 times the size of the observable universe, split into 3 equal parts.
Uhh nah actually, there's an infinite amount of pocket sized dimensions due to blanks, and garganta is infinitely larger than those pocket dimensions.
To house an infinite amount of blanks, an infinite amount of space is needed, in this case pocket dimensions.
Especially since the pocket dimensions are created due to the blanks.
Blanks themselves are lost souls, so the question is how is there an infinite amount of blanks, when the amount of space in the "real world" is limited, a limited amount of space that has only existed for a certain amount of time can't create an infinite amount of souls.
This imgur, is referring to the blanks by the way.
All Souls migrate between the Human World and the Soul Society. From time to time however, there are souls who, for some reason, become detached in the cycle of transmigration while in the Dangai. These Souls wander aimlessly from the Dangai, and are slowly drawn together over a period of time. As the Souls come together, it causes a new dimension to open, creating The Valley of Screams. In the Valley of Screams, the souls separate into memory and energy before they return to the cycle of transmigration. The memories left from blanks fuse together and return to the living world in the form of "The Shinenju." The Blanks were eventually found by The Dark Ones, who learned to use them in order to further their own power.
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Can you provide any substantiation for that claim?
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Dude, as much as I like the high metas for Bleach scaling, if I’m not misremembering, last time I checked that statement in the Japanese version, the word used wasn't 'Mugen' (無限), but the word for Constant or something similar, i can't recall the exact word or kanji rn.
You can prove me wrong if you want, but if not then you will need another argument for it.
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Arc will work his voodoo in time
although I'm one impatient bastard
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cba to fact check, i just remember the translation was infinite when i watched the movie.
It's not really a necessity either, you don't need an infinite construct.
As long as garganta is infinitely bigger, compared to the 4D constructs that are within it.
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The highest interpretation of this part, that each World has its own space-time continuum and Garganta has a different space-time continuum from them, is of course an notable thing. But given that the statement itself "Is cut off from the world of the living and the Soul Society, even from time and space". I'm not sure this.
A massive, NO.
If you're talking about significantly affecting a 2-C structure, you have to prove that the space-time continuums in question are significantly affected (like resetting/rewriting timelines). There's a difference between Senjumaru's Bankai significantly affecting a few snapshots of the space-time continuums, and having it affect all of the uncountably infinite snapshots of the space-time continuums.
I don't think you understand how extraordinary a claim it is that Senjumaru's Bankai affects the entire space-time continuum, but a shaking that affects the entire space-time continuums means that the entire past, present, and future of the 3 World are affected by this shaking.
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Do you know anything about Tier 2 other than "characters destroying universes"?Bruuhhh
This is his first time seeing any 2C argument I suppose. So it's a hard to swallow pill for him as it's bleach.
I wonder how many 2C characters attack actually affected past, present, future
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I can see someone who doesn’t know
Still wondering how many 2C characters attack here were shown to affect past, present, future
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この断界は名前の通り現世からも尸魂界からも時間と空間が断絶された場所だ
1. This Dangai, as the name suggests, is a place where time and space are severed from both the World of the Living and the Soul Society. (GPT)
2. This Dangai, as its name implies, is a place where time and space are completely severed from both the World of the Living and the Soul Society. (GPT)
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None of this entails it can't add consistency
CodeCCLL
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I don't even know why I take you seriously. But literally in every case that is accepted by the wiki as a solid Tier 2 feat it was happen/is strongly implied to have happened.I can see someone who doesn’t know
Still wondering how many 2C characters attack here were shown to affect past, present, future
What feat do you think this would be consistent with? Senjumaru's Bankai doesn't show a Tier 2 feat in the first place, and since the distance between universes cannot be known, even the fact that the shaking crosses the dangai doesn't mean much.
I also checked translation with GPT (like you) before it was posted. But no matter the translation, the words are a bit disconnected. I think, we need to see what wiki translators think.
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Yeah it's exactly the other way.
There's no reason to take someone seriously who think it's mandatory to affect past, present, future for 2C tier.
Lame indeed
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Your lack of knowledge is even more concerning.
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That would be dope, considering the chant in Auswahlen
Hellscream
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Apparently Yhwach saw the soul king being sealed as a child, which would confirm that Yhwach is actually the soul king's son and that he's actually millions of years old
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Yes, a lot of people doubted whether he was his actual son or not, there's a lot more info though but too lazy to note everythingdid anyone doubt any of this
can be easily found
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