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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Kubo better give a good reason for the captains getting stronger. Same way the power ups for the Elite Quincy.

Because this means that the Captains fighting the Elite Quincy would get a buff compared to their manga counterpart.

Please, make the power scaling make sense Kubo.

Edit: I forgot this scene from the trailer, Yhwach is going to take back the buff that he gave them.

QUINCY ELITE DEPOWERED< NERF INCOMING!

Zh8ndOK.png
 
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AppleLord said:
Kubo better give a good reason for the captains getting stronger. Same way the power ups for the Elite Quincy.

Because this means that the Captains fighting the Elite Quincy would get a buff compared to their manga counterpart.

Please, make the power scaling make sense Kubo.
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Maybe not all of the Quincy become Squad Zero level.
 
Hats off again to Kubo for this, but I just realized Ichigo and Uryu as fighters are perfect mirrors of each other.

Ichigo's fighting style is of course upclose and personal, primarily using swordsmanship and hand to hand combat, heavily leaning towards one particular ability just used in different variations, while Uryu uses his bow and many gadgets to fight opponents at range.

Both in terms of battle IQ and overall performance are also different as well. While Uryu is more proactive, making plans and traps by analyzing his enemies at the start and using his array of abilities to their fullest, Ichigo is more active/reactive, opting to fight them directly and learn them as he fights, gathering information and applying his fighting style to suit the situation accordingly, switching a vast arsenal out for ingenuity in using what he has to the fullest.

Both have shortcomings that also mirror each other of course, like Uryu against someone who can adapt to the situation can get the better of him if they're smart enough to figure out his stuff or put him in a situation where he straight up has little wincons or hints to help him learn more about his enemy as he can't adapt to situations as fast. This was shown when Ulquiorra curbstomped him because he was simply too strong for him, there was nothing to exploit off-rip, he lacked the endurance and adaptability to figure out how to beat him despite being fresher than Ichigo. While Ichigo is subject to preparation or shutting him down before he gets going. This was why his fight with Aizen was so difficult when he wasn't in his. Dangai form, Aizen knew too much about him, including how to exploit his emotions.

It's almost like they're an antithesis of each other (pun intended).

I hope this gets used to it's fullest potential when they fight this cour, because both technically counter each other, Uryu knows about Ichigo and his tendencies so he has the options to restrain him before he snowballs, while Ichigo can quickly learn and adapt to the situation at hand, allowing him to exploit weaknesses he'd find in him.
 
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AppleLord said:
Kubo better give a good reason for the captains getting stronger. Same way the power ups for the Elite Quincy.

Because this means that the Captains fighting the Elite Quincy would get a buff compared to their manga counterpart.

Please, make the power scaling make sense Kubo.

Edit: I forgot this scene from the trailer, Yhwach is going to take back the buff that he gave them.

QUINCY ELITE DEPOWERED< NERF INCOMING!

Zh8ndOK.png
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We have seen only uryu being on SZ level.
Even his bump seem weird and temporary.
 
To me it seems this massive hand is related to reio splitting worlds.
Serious ichigo got beaten by base yhwach.

Massive upgrade loading. Waiting for cosmology blog to be made
 
Ovy7 said:
This wasn't in the manga:
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The land around Seireitei erupts like a meteor hit it.
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Ground breaking of 3 worlds was in the manga.
You can always see extended scene in anime. I'm conerned about how they will potray garganta in the manga.

Garganta destruction is on a whole other level than destruction of just 3 worlds
 
Adam1396 said:
Ground breaking of 3 worlds was in the manga.
You can always see extended scene in anime.
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This is literally what I've said in my original comment, that the anime improved it. Like, this is how it looked in the manga:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1293868548162326558/image.png?ex=6708f07c&is=67079efc&hm=41199f6385d8e85b155cc78e9ed7fac663ce89fc03774ca3a400de7e5b2e32c6&

This is child's play compared to how the anime shows it.
 
Ovy7 said:
This is literally what I've said in my original comment, that the anime improved it. Like, this is how it looked in the manga:
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856923869448110090/1293868548162326558/image.png?ex=6708f07c&is=67079efc&hm=41199f6385d8e85b155cc78e9ed7fac663ce89fc03774ca3a400de7e5b2e32c6&

This is child's play compared to how the anime shows
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It happens in every anime adaptation. It's not addition, just to clarify my point.
 
Tyri456 said:
Didn’t you say that we will see Reio creating the worlds?
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That's what the leakers said, yes. I doubt that the flashback would be only what is in the imgur link, considering it's apparently almost 1 minute long.
 
Ovy7 said:
That's what the leakers said, yes. I doubt that the flashback would be only what is in the imgur link, considering it's apparently almost 1 minute long.
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Creating the worlds is 1 minute? Timeframe 👀 splitting the universe into 3 pieces in one minute and the transmutation 2/3 of it is…

3-BMulti-Galaxy 10^69 feat
 
AppleLord said:
Creating the worlds is 1 minute? Timeframe 👀 splitting the universe into 3 pieces in one minute and the transmutation 2/3 of it is…

3-BMulti-Galaxy 10^69 feat
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When multiple infinite is involved, I don’t get how it can be below uni in any way. Why would we put value of observable universe diameter when we know the size is Infinite??

When multiple space time continuum is involved how can it be below uni+.

I just don’t understand logic behind these math. Same applies to senjumaru's feat calc.
 
Adam1396 said:
When multiple infinite is involved, I don’t get how it can be below uni in any way. Why would we put value of observable universe diameter when we know the size is Infinite??

When multiple space time continuum is involved how can it be below uni+.

I just don’t understand logic behind these math. Same applies to senjumaru's feat calc.
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Using the size of the observable universe.
 
AppleLord said:
Using the size of the observable universe.
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Did you read what I said?
I don’t get the logic of using the size of observable universe when we know the size of the realm is infinite.

It's even more weird when multiple infinite size realm is involved.
 
GOATMAN1232000 said:
I don't think that this is accepted. If you think that the realms are infinite and believe that you have proof, make a CRT.
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That's what I wanted to know. The calcs simply look illogical for infinite size universe.

I can just make 5D bleach thread with solid arguments which would get rejected because the cosmology vlog is backdated not because of my arguments.
I'm not touching these things until cosmology vlog and crt are made. Some experts are waiting for anime to complete. So there's no point now making these crt. Let them cook first
 
Adam1396 said:
When multiple space time continuum is involved how can it be below uni+.
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You need to prove that each World has its own space-time continuum independently of each other and that shaking even affects the space-time continuums.

Both Worlds and Garganta are separated from each other by differences in time flow, but these differences can be explained by the gap between the Worlds. Therefore, it would make more sense to say that Garganta's space-time continuum includes all Worlds.

I think Bleach's current ratings are the best they can be for the content it has.
 
CodeCCLL said:
You need to prove that each World has its own space-time continuum independently of each other and that shaking even affects the space-time continuums.

Both Worlds and Garganta are separated from each other by differences in time flow, but these differences can be explained by the gap between the Worlds. Therefore, it would make more sense to say that Garganta's space-time continuum includes all Worlds.

I think Bleach's current ratings are the best they can be for the content it has.
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Make it make sense when they have a hyperdimension within it lmao
 
SilentBob34 said:
Let Arc work his magic🙏 if he has proof of 2C anything in Bleach then it’s gonna be backed up with solid evidence. Anything that has to do with it will be decided once the Cour ends
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Exactly.
And I think cosmology vlog can be made right after this cour ends. I think this cour will touch relevant plot regarding cosmos anyway. We might not need to wait for next cour
 
AppleLord said:
Kubo better give a good reason for the captains getting stronger. Same way the power ups for the Elite Quincy.

Because this means that the Captains fighting the Elite Quincy would get a buff compared to their manga counterpart.

Please, make the power scaling make sense Kubo.

Edit: I forgot this scene from the trailer, Yhwach is going to take back the buff that he gave them.

QUINCY ELITE DEPOWERED< NERF INCOMING!

Zh8ndOK.png
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I've a theory for you. How about SZ Bankai are merely separated power and abilities in comparison to their own granted by SK with just them being having authority over it? Would clear alot of power cliffing inconsistencies e.t.c
 
Adam1396 said:
Make it make sense
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CodeCCLL said:
differences in time flow
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I want to mention one last thing.

If it were stated that any World had its own space-time continuum, the difference in time flow of the worlds would be enough to prove the existence of different space-time continuums, but this (difference in flow of time) would not be enough, if space-time continuums were never mentioned in the first place.
 
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