BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

The living world Bleach doesn't come from the Big Bang, right ? So, there is no reason to use the size of the irl observable universe for the cosmology, there is also the fact that the living world is arround 1000 000 years old.

Can you provide any substantiation for that claim?

 

[Bastolan27]

This imgur, is referring to the blanks by the way.

Dude, as much as I like the high metas for Bleach scaling, if I’m not misremembering, last time I checked that statement in the Japanese version, the word used wasn't 'Mugen' (無限), but the word for Constant or something similar, i can't recall the exact word or kanji rn.

You can prove me wrong if you want, but if not then you will need another argument for it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

People see infinite and they drop 50 IQ

 

[Deceived3596]

Monke

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Arc will work his voodoo in time
although I'm one impatient bastard

 

[Hellscream]

Dude, as much as I like the high metas for Bleach scaling, if I’m not misremembering, last time I checked that statement in the Japanese version, the word used wasn't 'Mugen' (無限), but the word for Constant or something similar, i can't recall the exact word or kanji rn.

You can prove me wrong if you want, but if not then you will need another argument for it.

cba to fact check, i just remember the translation was infinite when i watched the movie.

It's not really a necessity either, you don't need an infinite construct.
As long as garganta is infinitely bigger, compared to the 4D constructs that are within it.

 

[CodeCCLL]

What about the dangai/precipice world that is between worlds but also is completely cut off from space and time of the other realms while being within the garganta.

The highest interpretation of this part, that each World has its own space-time continuum and Garganta has a different space-time continuum from them, is of course an notable thing. But given that the statement itself "Is cut off from the world of the living and the Soul Society, even from time and space". I'm not sure this.

Her keyword also says she greatly impacts the world. Which is further consistency for 2-C with our "significantly affect" standard.

A massive, NO.

If you're talking about significantly affecting a 2-C structure, you have to prove that the space-time continuums in question are significantly affected (like resetting/rewriting timelines). There's a difference between Senjumaru's Bankai significantly affecting a few snapshots of the space-time continuums, and having it affect all of the uncountably infinite snapshots of the space-time continuums.

I don't think you understand how extraordinary a claim it is that Senjumaru's Bankai affects the entire space-time continuum, but a shaking that affects the entire space-time continuums means that the entire past, present, and future of the 3 World are affected by this shaking.

 

[Adam1396]

Bruuhhh
This is his first time seeing any 2C argument I suppose. So it's a hard to swallow pill for him as it's bleach.
I wonder how many 2C characters attack actually affected past, present, future

 

[CodeCCLL]

Bruuhhh
This is his first time seeing any 2C argument I suppose. So it's a hard to swallow pill for him as it's bleach.
I wonder how many 2C characters attack actually affected past, present, future

Do you know anything about Tier 2 other than "characters destroying universes"?

 

[Adam1396]

Do you know anything about Tier 2 other than "characters destroying universes"?

I can see someone who doesn’t know

Still wondering how many 2C characters attack here were shown to affect past, present, future

 

[Bastolan27]

The highest interpretation of this part, that each World has its own space-time continuum and Garganta has a different space-time continuum from them, is of course an notable thing. But given that the statement itself "Is cut off from the world of the living and the Soul Society, even from time and space". I'm not sure this.

この断界は名前の通り現世からも尸魂界からも時間と空間が断絶された場所だ
1. This Dangai, as the name suggests, is a place where time and space are severed from both the World of the Living and the Soul Society. (GPT)
2. This Dangai, as its name implies, is a place where time and space are completely severed from both the World of the Living and the Soul Society. (GPT)

 

[Arcker123]

A massive, NO.

If you're talking about significantly affecting a 2-C structure, you have to prove that the space-time continuums in question are significantly affected (like resetting/rewriting timelines). There's a difference between Senjumaru's Bankai significantly affecting a few snapshots of the space-time continuums, and having it affect all of the uncountably infinite snapshots of the space-time continuums.

I don't think you understand how extraordinary a claim it is that Senjumaru's Bankai affects the entire space-time continuum, but a shaking that affects the entire space-time continuums means that the entire past, present, and future of the 3 World are affected by this shaking.

None of this entails it can't add consistency